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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 -3 }}, {{val| 0 1 4 0 2 1 }}, {{val| 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 -3 }}, {{val| 0 1 4 0 2 1 }}, {{val| 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 }}]
Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~144/77


{{Val list|legend=1| 10c, 22f, 32cf, 54cff, 72, 166, 198, 270, 634, 904, 1174, 1880ef }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 10c, 22f, 32cf, 54cff, 72, 166, 198, 270, 634, 904, 1174, 1880ef }}


[[Badness]]: 0.867 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]]: 0.867 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
=== 17-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
[[Comma list]]: 715/714, 1089/1088, 1225/1224, 2025/2023
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 -3 0 }}, {{val| 0 1 4 0 2 1 6 }}, {{val| 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 -6 }}]
{{Val list|legend=1| 22f, 54cffgg, 72, 166g, 198g, 270, 364, 436, 634g, 706f }}
[[Badness]]: 0.862 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
=== 19-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
[[Comma list]]: 715/714, 1225/1224, 1540/1539, 2080/2079, 4200/4199
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 -3 0 13 }}, {{val| 0 1 4 0 2 1 6 2 }}, {{val| 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 -6 -6 }}]
{{Val list|legend=1| 72, 94, 166g, 198g, 270, 436, 634g, 706f }}
[[Badness]]: 0.901 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
=== 23-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23
[[Comma list]]: 715/714, 1225/1224, 1540/1539, 2080/2079, 2530/2527, 2737/2736
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 -3 0 13 19 }}, {{val| 0 1 4 0 2 1 6 2 -2 }}, {{val| 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 -6 -6 -2 }}]
{{Val list|legend=1| 72, 94, 166g, 270, 342f, 436, 706fi }}
[[Badness]]: 1.14 × 10<sup>-3</sup>


=== Gersemi ===
=== Gersemi ===


The extension to 13-limit with [[4225/4224]] is weaker but facilitates the use of 18/7 as the equave. Fokker blocks of 128 notes are available for the latter, corresponding to 94edo. 18/7 is split into 4 parts that become ~19/15 in 19-limit. Also, (18/7)<sup>3</sup> ~ 17/1 via the [[5832/5831|chlorisma]]. However, the tones 9/8 and (19/15)/(9/8) = 152/135 have distinct mappings.
The extension to 13-limit with [[4225/4224]] is weak but facilitates the use of 18/7 as the equave. Fokker blocks of 128 notes are available for the latter, corresponding to 94edo. 18/7 is split into 4 parts that become ~19/15 in 19-limit. Also, (18/7)<sup>3</sup> ~ 17/1 via the [[5832/5831|chlorisma]]. However, the tones 9/8 and (19/15)/(9/8) = 152/135 have distinct mappings.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 9 0 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12 }}, {{val| 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 9 0 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12 }}, {{val| 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12 }}]
Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~154/65


{{Val list|legend=1| 44, 50, 94, 144g, 176g, 220g, 270, 364, 414, 634g, 684 }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 44, 50, 94, 144g, 176g, 220g, 270, 364, 414, 634g, 684 }}
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 9 0 1 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12 11 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12 -11 -3 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 2 0 1 2 6 9 0 1 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12 11 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12 -11 -3 }}]
Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~45/19


{{Val list|legend=1| 44, 50, 94, 144gh, 176g, 220g, 226, 270, 320i, 364i, 414hi }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 44, 50, 94, 144gh, 176g, 220g, 226, 270, 320i, 364i, 414hi }}

Revision as of 21:43, 24 June 2022

These are rank-3 temperaments tempering out 9801/9800. Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:

Considered below are odin, loki, van gogh, rishi, hnoss, and gersemi, but we can begin by looking at the rank-4 temperament.

Kalismic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 9801/9800

Mapping: [2 0 0 0 3], 0 1 0 0 -2], 0 0 1 0 1], 0 0 0 1 1]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5, ~7

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Odin

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 9801/9800, 151263/151250

Mapping: [6 0 0 8 17], 0 1 0 -2 -4], 0 0 1 2 3]]

Mapping generators: ~55/49, ~3, ~5

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Badness: 0.116 × 10-3

Loki

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 5632/5625, 9801/9800

Mapping: [2 0 0 -21 -18], 0 1 0 4 2], 0 0 1 3 4]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~5

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Badness: 0.493 × 10-3

Van Gogh

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 9801/9800, 199297406/199290375

Mapping: [2 0 8 0 11], 0 1 1 2 1], 0 0 -9 -1 -10]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~9/7

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Badness: 0.297 × 10-3

Rishi

The 7-limit comma [65 -84 10 16⟩ ~ 0.13c has the ratio of the exponents of 3 and 2 that is close to the one in 81/8. The square root of the latter is close to 35/11. This suggests tempering out (81/8)(35/11)-2, which is the kalisma.

Apart from 35/11, 35/33, and the equivalents of their squares, 81/8 and 9/8, another equave that comes to mind is 3/2, especially after tempering out the chalmersia. When 3/2 is chosen as the equave, Fokker blocks of 34 notes can be used that are close to 34edf and 58edo.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 9801/9800, 572145834917888/571919811374025

Mapping: [2 0 3 -10 -4], 0 1 2 4 4], 0 0 8 -5 3]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~17364375/14172488

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Badness: 2.10 × 10-3

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 9801/9800, 10648/10647, 371293/371250

Mapping: [2 0 3 -10 -4 2], 0 1 2 4 4 3], 0 0 8 -5 3 7]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~364/297

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Badness: 0.505 × 10-3

Hnoss

To the wizma [-6 -8 2 5⟩ = 420175/419904, the kalisma is a natural complement, as their product is the tinge.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 9801/9800, 41503/41472

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6], 0 1 4 0 2], 0 0 -5 2 -3]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~144/77

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Badness: 0.368 × 10-3

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 1716/1715, 2080/2079, 17303/17280

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 -3], 0 1 4 0 2 1], 0 0 -5 2 -3 4]]

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Badness: 0.867 × 10-3

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 715/714, 1089/1088, 1225/1224, 2025/2023

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 -3 0], 0 1 4 0 2 1 6], 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 -6]]

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Badness: 0.862 × 10-3

19-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 715/714, 1225/1224, 1540/1539, 2080/2079, 4200/4199

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 -3 0 13], 0 1 4 0 2 1 6 2], 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 -6 -6]]

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Badness: 0.901 × 10-3

23-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23

Comma list: 715/714, 1225/1224, 1540/1539, 2080/2079, 2530/2527, 2737/2736

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 -3 0 13 19], 0 1 4 0 2 1 6 2 -2], 0 0 -5 2 -3 4 -6 -6 -2]]

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Badness: 1.14 × 10-3

Gersemi

The extension to 13-limit with 4225/4224 is weak but facilitates the use of 18/7 as the equave. Fokker blocks of 128 notes are available for the latter, corresponding to 94edo. 18/7 is split into 4 parts that become ~19/15 in 19-limit. Also, (18/7)3 ~ 17/1 via the chlorisma. However, the tones 9/8 and (19/15)/(9/8) = 152/135 have distinct mappings.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 4225/4224, 9801/9800, 41503/41472

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 9], 0 1 9 -2 5 -6], 0 0 -10 4 -6 7]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~154/65

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Badness: 1.06 × 10-3

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 1089/1088, 1225/1224, 2025/2023, 4225/4224

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 9 0], 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12], 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12]]

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Badness: 1.46 × 10-3

19-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19

Comma list: 1089/1088, 1225/1224, 1729/1728, 2926/2925, 3762/3757

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 9 0 1], 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12 11], 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12 -11]]

Mapping generators: ~99/70, ~3, ~45/19

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Badness: 1.11 × 10-3

23-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.19.23

Comma list: 897/896, 1089/1088, 1225/1224, 1729/1728, 2737/2736, 2926/2925

Mapping: [2 0 1 2 6 9 0 1 7], 0 1 9 -2 5 -6 12 11 3], 0 0 -10 4 -6 7 -12 -11 -3]]

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Badness: 1.23 × 10-3