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-passion (weak extesion of archy, has its own family)
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Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, 2430/2401 gives quasisuper, and 4375/4374 gives modus.  
Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, 2430/2401 gives quasisuper, and 4375/4374 gives modus.  


Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are [[Father family #Mother|mother]], [[Meantone family #Dominant|dominant]], [[Augmented family #Augene|augene]], [[Porcupine family #Porcupine|porcupine]], [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|pajara]], [[Kleismic family #Catalan|catalan]], [[Tetracot family #Modus|modus]], [[Passion family #Septimal passion|passion]], and [[Immunity family #Immunized|immunized]]. The rest are considered below.
Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are:
* ''[[Father]]'' → [[Father family #Mother]]
* ''[[Dominant]]'' → [[Meantone family #Dominant]]
* ''[[Augene]]'' → [[Augmented family #Augene]]
* [[Porcupine]] → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine]]
* [[Pajara]] → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara]]
* ''[[Blacksmith]]'' → [[Limma family #Blacksmith]]
* ''[[Catalan]]'' → [[Kleismic family #Catalan]]
* ''[[Modus]]'' → [[Tetracot family #Modus]]
* ''[[Passion]]'' → [[Passion family #Septimal passion]]
* ''[[Immunized]]'' → [[Immunity family #Immunized]]
 
The rest are considered below.


== Archy ==
== Archy ==
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Badness: 0.037482
Badness: 0.037482
== Blacksmith ==
[[File:blacksmith10.jpg|alt=blacksmith10.jpg|thumb|Lattice of blacksmith]]
=== 5-limit (blackwood) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Comma]]: 256/243
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 5 8 0 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 }}]
Mapping generators: ~9/8, ~5
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 399.594
{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 10, 15 }}
[[Badness]]: 0.063760
=== 7-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 28/27, 49/48
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 }}]
Mapping generators: ~7/6, ~5
{{Multival|legend=1| 0 5 0 8 0 -14 }}
[[POTE generator]]: ~5/4 = 392.767
{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 10, 15, 40b, 55b }}
[[Badness]]: 0.025640
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 28/27, 49/48, 55/54
Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 29 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 -1 }}]
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 394.948
Vals: {{Val list| 5, 10, 15, 40be, 55be, 70bde, 85bcde}}
Badness: 0.024641
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 55/54
Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 29 7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 -1 1 }}]
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.037
Vals: {{Val list| 5, 10, 15, 25e, 40bef}}
Badness: 0.020498
=== Farrier ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 28/27, 49/48, 77/75
Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 -6 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 2 }}]
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 398.070
Vals: {{Val list| 5e, 10e, 15 }}
Badness: 0.029200
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 66/65
Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 -6 7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 2 1 }}]
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 396.812
Vals: {{Val list| 5e, 10e, 15 }}
Badness: 0.022325
=== Ferrum ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 28/27, 35/33, 49/48
Mapping: [{{val| 5 8 0 14 6 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 0 1 }}]
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 374.763
Vals: {{Val list| 5e, 10 }}
Badness: 0.030883


== Beatles ==
== Beatles ==

Revision as of 11:44, 26 September 2021

The archytas clan (or archy family) tempers out the Archytas comma, 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to 81/80 in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with 3s and 7s quite sharp, such as those of 22EDO.

Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, 2430/2401 gives quasisuper, and 4375/4374 gives modus.

Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are:

The rest are considered below.

Archy

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma list: 64/63

Sval mapping: [1 0 6], 0 1 -2]]

Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4], 0 1 0 -2]]

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.321

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Scales: archy5, archy7, archy12

Supra

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 99/98

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13], 0 1 -2 -6]]

Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 7], 0 1 0 -2 -6]]

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 707.192

Vals: Template:Val list

Scales: supra7, supra12

Supraphon

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13 18], 0 1 -2 -6 -9]]

Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 7 9], 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9]]

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 706.137

Vals: Template:Val list

Scales: supra7, supra12

Suhajira

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 243/242

Sval mapping: [1 1 4 2], 0 2 -4 5]]

Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 2], 0 1 0 -4 5]]

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]

POTE generator: ~11/9 = 353.958

Vals: Template:Val list

Scales: suhajira7, suhajira10, suhajira17

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 144/143

Sval mapping: [1 1 4 2 4], 0 2 -4 5 -1]]

Sval mapping generators: ~2, ~11/9

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 2 4], 0 1 0 -4 5 -1]]

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]

POTE generator: ~11/9 = 353.775

Vals: Template:Val list

Scales: suhajira7, suhajira10, suhajira17

Superpyth

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 245/243

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6], 0 1 9 -2]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 9 -2 12 -6 -30 ]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.291

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Badness: 0.032318

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 245/243

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 -22], 0 1 9 -2 16]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.175

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.024976

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 -22 -17], 0 1 9 -2 16 13]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.479

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.024673

Suprapyth

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 99/98

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 13], 0 1 9 -2 -6]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.495

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032768

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98

Mapping: [1 0 -12 6 13 18], 0 1 9 -2 -6 -9]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.703

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.036336

Quasisuper

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 2430/2401

Mapping: [1 0 23 6], 0 1 -13 -2]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 -13 -2 -23 -6 32 ]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.328

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Badness: 0.063794

Quasisupra

Quasisupra can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11 temperament supra, with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in, rather than the superpyth mapping of 5 (which results in suprapyth).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120

Mapping: [1 0 23 6 13], 0 1 -13 -2 -6]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.205

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032203

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 121/120

Mapping: [1 0 23 6 13 18], 0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.004

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.030219

Quasisoup

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2430/2401

Mapping: [1 0 23 6 -22], 0 1 -13 -2 16]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.021

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.083490

Ultrapyth

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 6860/6561

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6], 0 1 14 -2]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 14 -2 20 -6 -44 ]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 713.651

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Badness: 0.108466

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 2401/2376

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 21], 0 1 14 -2 -11]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 713.395

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.068238

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 1573/1568

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 21 -25], 0 1 14 -2 -11 18]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 713.500

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.049172

Counterultrapyth

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 3773/3645

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 -38], 0 1 14 -2 26]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 713.791

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.078068

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 847/845

Mapping: [1 0 -20 6 -38 -25], 0 1 14 -2 26 18]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 713.811

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.045653

Schism

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 360/343

Mapping: [1 0 15 6], 0 1 -8 -2]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18 ]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 701.556

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.056648

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 45/44, 64/63, 99/98

Mapping: [1 0 15 6 13], 0 1 -8 -2 -6]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 702.136

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.037482

Beatles

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma: 524288/492075

Mapping: [1 1 5], 0 2 -9]]

POTE generator: ~512/405 = 355.930

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.358542

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 686/675

Mapping: [1 1 5 4], 0 2 -9 -4]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 2 -9 -4 -19 -12 16 ]]

POTE generator: ~49/40 = 355.904

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.045872

Music

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 100/99, 686/675

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 10], 0 2 -9 -4 -22]]

POTE generator: ~49/40 = 356.140

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.045639

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 10 4], 0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1]]

POTE generator: ~16/13 = 356.229

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.030161

Ringo

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 540/539

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 2], 0 2 -9 -4 5]]

POTE generator: ~11/9 = 355.419

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032863

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 91/90

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 2 4], 0 2 -9 -4 5 -1]]

POTE generator: ~11/9 = 355.456

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.022619

Beetle

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 686/675

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 -1], 0 2 -9 -4 15]]

POTE generator: ~49/40 = 356.710

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.058084

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 169/168

Mapping: [1 1 5 4 -1 4], 0 2 -9 -4 15 -1]]

POTE generator: ~16/13 = 356.701

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.033971

Fervor

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma: 67108864/61509375

Mapping: [1 4 -2], 0 -5 9]]

POTE generator: ~64/45 = 577.705

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Badness: 0.852612

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 9604/9375

Mapping: [1 4 -2 -2], 0 -5 9 10]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2 ]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 577.776

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.108455

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 1350/1331

Mapping: [1 4 -2 -2 3], 0 -5 9 10 1]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 577.850

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.052054

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 78/77, 507/500

Mapping: [1 4 -2 -2 3 -4], 0 -5 9 10 1 16]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 578.060

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.039705

Progress

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma: 32768/30375

Mapping: [1 0 5], 0 3 -5]]

POTE generator: ~64/45 = 561.264

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.246073

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 392/375

Mapping: [1 0 5 6], 0 3 -5 -6]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0 ]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 562.122

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.066400

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 77/75

Mapping: [1 0 5 6 4], 0 3 -5 -6 -1]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 562.085

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.031036

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75

Mapping: [1 0 5 6 4 0], 0 3 -5 -6 -1 7]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 562.365

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.026214

Progressive

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75

Mapping: [1 0 5 6 4 9], 0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10]]

POTE generator: ~7/5 = 563.239

Vals: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032721

Sixix

See also: Dual-fifth temperaments#Dual-3 Sixix

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma: 3125/2916

Mapping: [1 3 4], 0 -5 -6]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 338.365

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.153088

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 64/63, 3125/2916

Mapping: [1 3 4 0], 0 -5 -6 10]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 5 6 -10 -2 -30 -40 ]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 337.442

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Badness: 0.158903