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'''17EDT''' is [[EDT|equal division of the third harmonic]] into 17 parts of 111.880 cents each (corresponding to 10.726 [[EDO]]). | |||
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== Properties == | |||
In the no-twos subgroup, 17EDT tempers out 245/243 and 16807/15625 in the 7-limit, 77/75 and 1331/1323 in the 11-limit, and 175/169 and 121/117 in the 13-limit. It supports the no-twos temperament tempering out 245/243 and 77/75, which in terms of tritave patent vals could be written b17&b21. | |||
17EDT is the sixth [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Removing primes|zeta peak tritave division]]. | |||
= | == Discussion == | ||
17EDT is closely related to [[13edt|13EDT]], the Bohlen-Pierce division, because they share the feature of tempering out 245/243. Both 13edt and 17EDT have 4L+5s nonatonic modes, but whereas the ratio of large to small steps in 13EDT is a calm 2:1, in 17EDT it is a hard 3:1. Thus, the approximation of 5/3 and 7/3 suffers slightly in return for gaining a good approximation of 11/9 (given the context of the weak 5/3 and 7/3), which is in fact the size of the large step. However, by the coincidence of the 11-limit commas 17EDT tempers out, 5/3 and 11/9 are off by practically the same amount in opposite directions (+10.7 cents and -11.8 cents), leading to an excellent approximation of 55/27 (only 1.1 cents flat), as are 11/9 and 9/7 (-11.8 cents and +12.4 cents), leading to an excellent approximation of 11/7 (only .6 cents flat) and these sum to 605/189-1.7 cents, which is also a 16/5 which is only .15 cents sharp (in addition to equaling 256). | |||
== Intervals == | |||
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! | degree | |||
! | note name | |||
! | cents value | |||
!hekts | ! | hekts | ||
! | cents value <br>octave reduced | |||
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| | 0 | | | 0 | ||
| | C | | | C | ||
| colspan="2" | 0 | |||
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| | Db = B# | | | Db = B# | ||
| | 111.9 | | | 111.9 | ||
|76.5 | | | 76.5 | ||
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| | Eb = C# | | | Eb = C# | ||
| | 223.8 | | | 223.8 | ||
|152.9 | | | 152.9 | ||
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| | D | | | D | ||
| | 335.6 | | | 335.6 | ||
|229.4 | | | 229.4 | ||
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| | E | | | E | ||
| | 447.5 | | | 447.5 | ||
|305.9 | | | 305.9 | ||
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| | F = D# | | | F = D# | ||
| | 559.4 | | | 559.4 | ||
|382.35 | | | 382.35 | ||
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| | Gb = E# | | | Gb = E# | ||
| | 671.3 | | | 671.3 | ||
|458.8 | | | 458.8 | ||
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| | Hb = F# | | | Hb = F# | ||
| | 783.2 | | | 783.2 | ||
|535.3 | | | 535.3 | ||
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| | G | | | G | ||
| | 895.1 | | | 895.1 | ||
|611.8 | | | 611.8 | ||
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| | H | | | H | ||
| | 1006.9 | | | 1006.9 | ||
|688.2 | | | 688.2 | ||
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| | Jb = G# | | | Jb = G# | ||
| | 1118.8 | | | 1118.8 | ||
|764.7 | | | 764.7 | ||
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| | Ab = H# | | | Ab = H# | ||
| | 1230.7 | | | 1230.7 | ||
|841.2 | | | 841.2 | ||
| | 30.7 | | | 30.7 | ||
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| | J | | | J | ||
| | 1342.6 | | | 1342.6 | ||
|917.65 | | | 917.65 | ||
| | 142.6 | | | 142.6 | ||
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| | A | | | A | ||
| | 1454.4 | | | 1454.4 | ||
|994.1 | | | 994.1 | ||
| | 254.4 | | | 254.4 | ||
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| | Bb = J# | | | Bb = J# | ||
| | 1566.3 | | | 1566.3 | ||
|1070.6 | | | 1070.6 | ||
| | 366.3 | | | 366.3 | ||
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| | Cb = A# | | | Cb = A# | ||
| | 1678.2 | | | 1678.2 | ||
|1147.1 | | | 1147.1 | ||
| | 478.2 | | | 478.2 | ||
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| | B | | | B | ||
| | 1790.1 | | | 1790.1 | ||
|1223.5 | | | 1223.5 | ||
| | 590.1 | | | 590.1 | ||
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| | C | | | C | ||
| | 1902 | | | 1902 | ||
|1300 | | | 1300 | ||
| | 702 | | | 702 | ||
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|1376.5 | | | 1376.5 | ||
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| | 2125.7 | | | 2125.7 | ||
|1452.9 | | | 1452.9 | ||
| | 925.7 | | | 925.7 | ||
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|1529.4 | | | 1529.4 | ||
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|2447.1 | | | 2447.1 | ||
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|2600 | | | 2600 | ||
| | 203.9 | | | 203.9 | ||
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<ul><li>Notes named so that C D E F G H J A B C = Lambda mode</li></ul>It's a weird coincidence how the schemes of | <ul><li>Notes named so that C D E F G H J A B C = Lambda mode</li></ul>It's a weird coincidence how the schemes of 17EDO and 17EDT diatonicism are so similar and how their approximations of 9/7 are off by such similar amounts in opposite directions (17EDO -11.6 cents and 17EDT +12.4 cents). | ||
=Z function= | == Regular temperament == | ||
Below is a plot of the [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Removing primes|no-twos Z function]] in the vicinity of | 17EDT is also be thought of as a generator of the vavoom temperament. As one degree of 17EDT is very close to [[16/15]], an unnoticeable comma {{monzo|-68 18 17}} is tempered out in the vavoom temperament. | ||
'''<font style="font-size: 1.35em">Vavoom (118&783)</font>'''<br> | |||
'''<font style="font-size: 1.2em">5-limit</font>'''<br> | |||
Comma: {{monzo|-68 18 17}}<br> | |||
Mapping: [{{val|1 0 4}}, {{val|0 17 -18}}]<br> | |||
POTE generator: ~16/15 = 111.876<br> | |||
Vals: 11, 32, 43, 75, 118, 429, 547, 665, 783, 901, 1684<br> | |||
Badness: 0.098376<br><br> | |||
== Z function == | |||
Below is a plot of the [[The_Riemann_Zeta_Function_and_Tuning#Removing primes|no-twos Z function]] in the vicinity of 17EDT. | |||
[[File:17edt.png|alt=17edt.png|17edt.png]] | [[File:17edt.png|alt=17edt.png|17edt.png]] | ||
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