User talk:Lhearne

Fighting with table syntax

Hi Lhearne,
I saw some of your changes on page The 16 most stable triads of 22edo. Let me give you a short hint: add one space ( ) between the leading meta char(s) and the actual cell content, this way also negative numbers will display correctly (plus also eases the orientation for later changes). In the table syntax all the following combinations - when starting a line - have a special meaning: |, !, |-, |+ {|, |}. Hope this helps --Xenwolf (talk) 12:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Xenwolf,

Ok awesome, thanks so much! --Lhearne (talk) 12:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Improvement on SHEFKHED interval names

Hey! Are you one of the people involved in creating SHEFKHED interval names? If so, I would like to talk to you, as I would like to find out the best way to name some intervals, especially for non-meantone settings like 159edo. Yes, in effect, I would like to improve and extend this naming system further. One thing I would like to see done is giving proper names to some of the 11-limit intervals without the need for the rastma being tempered. --Aura (talk) 14:37, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Aura! Yes I am, I'm stocked that anyone's looked at it haha, thanks for your interest! So after I wrote the article and talked about it on XA on fb and got some feedback, I made some changes. I didn't finish the update, and moved on to other work unfortunately, so couldn't write the new article. I'll summarize here though as much as I can remember:

First, ideal we need to avoid being locked into any tempering. My intermediates were not that well received, as they involved 7 new nominals, and potential issues with notation considering this were raised. However neutrals pose the same notational issues. To fix this, I have added new prefixes. The set of prefixes (applied to major and minor thirds) then (updated further as I'm thinking about it now) are

C/c, Classic/classic or Comma-Wide/comma-narrow, altering by 81/80 to get our classic major and minor thirds KM3 = 5/4 and km3 = 6/5

S/s, Super/sub, altering by the septimal comma, 64/63, to get our septimal major and minor thirds SM3 = 9/7 and sm3 = 7/6

U/u, Up/under or Undecimal/undecimal, altering by the undecimal comma, 33/32, to get our undecimal neutral thirds uM3 = 27/22, Um3 = 11/9

T/t, Tamed/tamed or Tridecimal/tridecimal, altering by the tridecimal comma, 1053/1024, to get our tridecimal netral thirds tM3 = 16/13, Tm3 = 39/32

G/g, Gentle/gentle, altering by the gentle commas, 896/891 and 352/351, to get the gentle-tempered major and minor thirds GM3 = 14/11 and gm3 = 13/11

B/b, Bright/baby (open to suggestions for this...) or Barbados/barbados, altering by 416/405 to get the Barbados intervals BM3 = 13/10 and bm3 = 15/13

Each of these alterations can be represented in notation by an accidental stylized from the associated letter.

Neutral and intermediates could both be added to this, as before, to carry more info on structure and tempering. Maybe with this the system could be called C-TUBINGS

Wide and narrow can still be used as before, in order to apply to any edo.

53edo (with intermediates): P1 C1/S1 U1/(1-2)/bm2 sm2 m2 Cm2 Um2/Tm2 uM2/tM2 cM2 M2 SM2 (2-3)/bm3 sm3 m3 Cm3 Um3/Tm3 uM3/tM3 cM3 M3 SM3 BM3/(3-4) s4 P4 C4 U4 uA4/tA4 cA4/d5 A4/Cd5 Ud5/Td5 u5 c5 P5 S5 BM6/(5-6) sm6 m6 Cm6 Um6/Tm6 uM6/tM6 cM6 M6 SM6 BM6/(6-7) sm7 m7 Cm7 Um7/Tm7 uM7/tM7 cM7 M7 SM7 BM7/(7-8)/u8 c8/s8 P8

72edo (with neutrals and intermediates): P1 C1 S1 U1/(1-2)/bm2 sm2 gm2 m2 Cm2 Tm2 Um2/(N2)/uM2 tM2 cM2 M2 GM2 SM2 (2-3)/bm3 sm3 gm3 m3 Cm3 Tm3 Um3/(N3)/uM3 tM3 cM3 M3 GM3 SM3 BM3/(3-4) s4 g4 P4 C4 T4 U4 sd5 cA4 A4/d5 Cd5 SA4 u5 t5 c5 P5 G5 S5 (5-6)/bm6 sm6 gm6 m6 Cm6 Tm6 Um6/(N6)/uM6 tM6 cM6 M6 GM6 SM6 BM6\(6-7) sm7 gm7 m7 Cm7 Tm7 Um7/(N7)/uM7 tM7 cM7 M7 GM7 SM7 BM7/(7-8)/u8 s8 c8 P8

--Lhearne (talk) 06:04, 2 February 2021 (UTC)