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Right, one thing that needs to be made clear here is that 33/32 really does serve multiple roles. Flora, you may not know this, but blues music ''does'' sometimes see 11/8 passed through on the way to roughly 15/11 as a means of further diminishing the flat fifth, before then resolving to 4/3. I know this because I've met a composer who's familiar with this aspect of blues music. When I introduced the idea of 11/8 as a fourth to him, he said he had never thought of resolving it up to 3/2 like I usually do. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 14:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC) | Right, one thing that needs to be made clear here is that 33/32 really does serve multiple roles. Flora, you may not know this, but blues music ''does'' sometimes see 11/8 passed through on the way to roughly 15/11 as a means of further diminishing the flat fifth, before then resolving to 4/3. I know this because I've met a composer who's familiar with this aspect of blues music. When I introduced the idea of 11/8 as a fourth to him, he said he had never thought of resolving it up to 3/2 like I usually do. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 14:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC) | ||
Effectively, this shrinking of the flat fifth results in F-demisharp being higher than G-Sesquiflat. It can be compared to the similar situation in which the Pythagorean Chromatic semitone being larger than the Pythagorean Diatonic semitone, with the result that C-sharp is higher than D-Flat. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 14:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC) | Effectively, this shrinking of the flat fifth results in a just F-demisharp being higher than a just G-Sesquiflat. It can be compared to the similar situation in which the Pythagorean Chromatic semitone being larger than the Pythagorean Diatonic semitone, with the result that C-sharp is higher than D-Flat. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 14:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 14:35, 18 September 2020
Name order
I'd like to change the order, making al-Farabi (Alpharabius) quarter tone first in the list. I think the math-derived names are less characteristic, and in addition we should be open to non-western music tradition because as they already tried lots of ideas we "now" have. --Xenwolf (talk) 09:35, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sure, despite that it's a long name (My same complaint about "Hunt minor submediant comma"). FloraC (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
undecimal subminor second
This part was introduced by Aura[1] and reverted by FloraC [2]:
Because of its close proximity to 28/27, form which it differs only by 896/891, one could reasonably argue that 33/32 is the undecimal counterpart to 28/27, particularly if treated as an interval in its own right, in which case it could be analysed as the undecimal subminor second.
I'd like to remember that:
A Revert is felt however often as rude or unfriendly. If one considers that it needs hardly more than one mouse-click, whereas a substantial change costs sometimes very much effort, this becomes understandable.
Maybe the addition proposal should be further discussed? --Xenwolf (talk) 12:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Right, one thing that needs to be made clear here is that 33/32 really does serve multiple roles. Flora, you may not know this, but blues music does sometimes see 11/8 passed through on the way to roughly 15/11 as a means of further diminishing the flat fifth, before then resolving to 4/3. I know this because I've met a composer who's familiar with this aspect of blues music. When I introduced the idea of 11/8 as a fourth to him, he said he had never thought of resolving it up to 3/2 like I usually do. --Aura (talk) 14:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Effectively, this shrinking of the flat fifth results in a just F-demisharp being higher than a just G-Sesquiflat. It can be compared to the similar situation in which the Pythagorean Chromatic semitone being larger than the Pythagorean Diatonic semitone, with the result that C-sharp is higher than D-Flat. --Aura (talk) 14:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC)