Talk:KISS notation: Difference between revisions

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:::::::::: Say that two microtonal musicians wish to collaborate on a song over the miracle of the internet. Musician A chooses to perform in Orwell[9] in A in 53-edo at A4=440 Hz. Musician B can pretty easily set up to accommodate that. If Musician A instead chooses a reference pitch of E^4 = 334.33 Hz. Musician B can still figure this out, but it's a pain, because the reference pitch given is communicated in a weird way. Now, I'm sure we can agree that D is a lot less weird, but, if there is already a standard in place for musicians all over Europe and the Americas to refer to A4, anything that is not communicated as A4 is at least a little weird (as in, going against convention). So why? --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 21:33, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

::::::::::: > Why is dorian mode unbiased, as you say?

::::::::::: Let's look at the circle of fifths. Dorian is the one that's generated by equal steps from each side. Dorian is also the mode that inverts to itself. The inversion pairs are like: Lydian-Locrian, Ionian-Phrygian, Mixolydian-Aeolian, and Dorian-Dorian.

::::::::::: > what makes the center any more significant than the beginning or the end?

::::::::::: The center is the reconciliation of the beginning and the end. If one argues for one, one can argue for the opposite with equal validity, but they unite at the center.

::::::::::: > going against convention

::::::::::: Citing the status quo is cheap. We're talking about different things: what's better and what we should do. Actually, digital tuning is very easy, just a few clicks to get the tuning files through. I'm not so concerned about acoustic instruments since most are difficult to microtune anyway. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't want to disturb your discussion too much, but I thought it might be useful to keep in mind that "KISS notation" is just '''one''' representative of many [[:Category:Notation|notation systems]]. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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 :::::::::: Say that two microtonal musicians wish to collaborate on a song over the miracle of the internet.  Musician A chooses to perform in Orwell[9] in A in 53-edo at A4=440 Hz.  Musician B can pretty easily set up to accommodate that.  If Musician A instead chooses a reference pitch of E^4 = 334.33 Hz.  Musician B can still figure this out, but it's a pain, because the reference pitch given is communicated in a weird way.  Now, I'm sure we can agree that D is a lot less weird, but, if there is already a standard in place for musicians all over Europe and the Americas to refer to A4, anything that is not communicated as A4 is at least a little weird (as in, going against convention).  So why? --[[User:Bozu|Bozu]] ([[User talk:Bozu|talk]]) 21:33, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
+::::::::::: > Why is dorian mode unbiased, as you say?
+::::::::::: Let's look at the circle of fifths. Dorian is the one that's generated by equal steps from each side. Dorian is also the mode that inverts to itself. The inversion pairs are like: Lydian-Locrian, Ionian-Phrygian, Mixolydian-Aeolian, and Dorian-Dorian.
+::::::::::: > what makes the center any more significant than the beginning or the end?
+::::::::::: The center is the reconciliation of the beginning and the end. If one argues for one, one can argue for the opposite with equal validity, but they unite at the center.
+::::::::::: > going against convention
+::::::::::: Citing the status quo is cheap. We're talking about different things: what's better and what we should do. Actually, digital tuning is very easy, just a few clicks to get the tuning files through. I'm not so concerned about acoustic instruments since most are difficult to microtune anyway. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 I don't want to disturb your discussion too much, but I thought it might be useful to keep in mind that "KISS notation" is just '''one''' representative of many [[:Category:Notation|notation systems]]. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)