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This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.


[[Comma]]: |-16 35 -17&gt;
[[Comma|Comma]]: |-16 35 -17&gt;


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.466
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.466


[[Map]]: [&lt;1 16 32|, &lt;0 -17 -35|]
[[Map|Map]]: [&lt;1 16 32|, &lt;0 -17 -35|]
[[EDO]]s: [[46edo|46]], [[125edo|125]], [[171edo|171]], [[388edo|388]], 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091
 
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[[EDO|EDO]]s: [[46edo|46]], [[125edo|125]], [[171edo|171]], [[388edo|388]], 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091
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=Mitonic=
=Mitonic=
As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.
As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &lt;&lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.


However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo]]. The wedgie is now &lt;&lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.
However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo|171edo]]. The wedgie is now &lt;&lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.


[[Comma]]s: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152


[[POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.458
[[POTE_generator|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.458


[[Map]]: [&lt;1 16 32 -15|, &lt;0 -17 -35 21|]
[[Map|Map]]: [&lt;1 16 32 -15|, &lt;0 -17 -35 21|]
[[EDO]]s: [[7edo|7]], [[13edo|13]], [[33edo|33]], [[46edo|46]], [[125edo|125]], [[171edo|171]]
 
[[Badness]]: 0.0252
[[EDO|EDO]]s: [[7edo|7]], [[13edo|13]], [[33edo|33]], [[46edo|46]], [[125edo|125]], [[171edo|171]]
 
[[Badness|Badness]]: 0.0252


=Domain=
=Domain=
Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic pairs#Terrain|terrain]].
Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic_pairs#Terrain|terrain]].
 
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712
 
[[POTE_generator|POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.467


[[Comma]]s: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712
[[Map|Map]]: [&lt;3 14 26 28|, &lt;0 -17 -35 -36|]


[[POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.467
[[EDO|EDO]]S: 171, 1164, 1335, 1506, 1677, 1848, 2019, 11943, 13962, 15981, 18000, 20019, 22038


[[Map]]: [&lt;3 14 26 28|, &lt;0 -17 -35 -36|]
[[Badness|Badness]]: 0.0140
[[EDO]]S: 171, 1164, 1335, 1506, 1677, 1848, 2019, 11943, 13962, 15981, 18000, 20019, 22038
[[Category:family]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0140</pre></div>
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[[Category:theory]]
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Minortonic family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:todo:intro]]
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Comma&lt;/a&gt;: |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~10/9 = 182.466&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Map"&gt;Map&lt;/a&gt;: [&amp;lt;1 16 32|, &amp;lt;0 -17 -35|]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;s: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/125edo"&gt;125&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo"&gt;171&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/388edo"&gt;388&lt;/a&gt;, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17&amp;gt;. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo"&gt;171edo&lt;/a&gt;. The wedgie is now &amp;lt;&amp;lt;17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Comma&lt;/a&gt;s: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20generator"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~10/9 = 182.458&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Map"&gt;Map&lt;/a&gt;: [&amp;lt;1 16 32 -15|, &amp;lt;0 -17 -35 21|]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;s: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7edo"&gt;7&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13edo"&gt;13&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/33edo"&gt;33&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/125edo"&gt;125&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/171edo"&gt;171&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Badness"&gt;Badness&lt;/a&gt;: 0.0252&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Chromatic%20pairs#Terrain"&gt;terrain&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Comma&lt;/a&gt;s: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20generator"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~10/9 = 182.467&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Map"&gt;Map&lt;/a&gt;: [&amp;lt;3 14 26 28|, &amp;lt;0 -17 -35 -36|]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt;S: 171, 1164, 1335, 1506, 1677, 1848, 2019, 11943, 13962, 15981, 18000, 20019, 22038&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Badness"&gt;Badness&lt;/a&gt;: 0.0140&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>

Revision as of 00:00, 17 July 2018

This tempers out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17>. The head of the family is minortonic temperament, with generator a minor tone.

Comma: |-16 35 -17>

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.466

Map: [<1 16 32|, <0 -17 -35|]

EDOs: 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091

Mitonic

As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, |-16 35 -17>. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie <<17 35 16||, which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 6^(1/17) being 0.06423 cents flat and 40^(1/35) being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.

However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)^4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in 171edo. The wedgie is now <<17 35 -21 16 -81 -147||, with 21 10/9 generators giving a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.

Commas: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.458

Map: [<1 16 32 -15|, <0 -17 -35 21|]

EDOs: 7, 13, 33, 46, 125, 171

Badness: 0.0252

Domain

Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament terrain.

Commas: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.467

Map: [<3 14 26 28|, <0 -17 -35 -36|]

EDOS: 171, 1164, 1335, 1506, 1677, 1848, 2019, 11943, 13962, 15981, 18000, 20019, 22038

Badness: 0.0140

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