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Revision as of 17:43, 30 September 2026
- This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.
The llywelynsmic clan of temperaments tempers out the no-threes llywelyn comma (monzo: [22 0 -1 -7⟩, ratio: 4194304/4117715 }}.
Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe
Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe can be described as the 16 & 21 temperament, generated by a flattened ~8/7 whole tone, seven of which give the interval class of 5. Its ploidacot is alpha-heptaseph.
Subgroup: 2.5.7
Comma list: 4194304/4117715
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 3], ⟨0 7 -1]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 1 3], ⟨0 0 7 -1]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7
- WE: ~2 = 1199.1974 ¢, ~8/7 = 226.7586 ¢
- error map: ⟨-0.803 +0.194 +2.008]
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~8/7 = 226.8388 ¢
- error map: ⟨0.000 +1.558 +4.335]
Optimal ET sequence: 5, 11c, 16, 21, 37, 164d
Badness (Sintel): 2.06
Scales: Shoe5, Shoe6, Shoe11, Shoe16
Overview to extensions
Strong 7-limit extensions of llywelyn include gorgo (16 & 21), gorgik (21 & 37), and semaja (16 & 37). These temperaments are distributed into different family pages.
- Gorgo (+36/35) → Gamelismic clan
- Gorgik (+2401/2400) → Breedsmic temperaments
- Semaja (+3125/3087) → Gariboh clan
The rest are weak extensions. Misneb (21 & 32) splits 8/7 into two for 15/14~16/15 each. Ultrapyth (32 & 37) splits 16/7 into two for a perfect fifth. Buzzard (53 & 58) splits 16/7 into three, each for 21/16.
Discussed elsewhere are
- Ultrapyth (+64/63) → Archytas clan
- Misneb (+225/224) → Marvel temperaments
- Buzzard (+1728/1715) → Buzzardsmic clan
Considered immediately below is the canonical 2.5.7.11-subgroup to 2.5.7.11.13.17-subgroup extension.
2.5.7.11 subgroup
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11
Comma list: 176/175, 1310720/1294139
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 3 1], ⟨0 7 -1 13]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 1 3 1], ⟨0 0 7 -1 13]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.1784 ¢, ~8/7 = 226.9582 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.0438 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 16, 21, 37, 206cd, 243cd, …, 354ccdd
Badness (Sintel): 0.651
2.5.7.11.13 subgroup
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 176/175, 640/637, 847/845
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 3 1 2], ⟨0 7 -1 13 9]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 1 3 1 2], ⟨0 0 7 -1 13 9]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.1643 ¢, ~8/7 = 226.9495 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.0315 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 16, 21, 37, 206cdf, 243cdf, …, 354ccddff
Badness (Sintel): 0.319
2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 176/175, 221/220, 640/637, 847/845
Subgroup-val mapping: [⟨1 1 3 1 2 2], ⟨0 7 -1 13 9 11]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 0 1 3 1 2 2], ⟨0 0 7 -1 13 9 11]]
Optimal tunings:
- WE: ~2 = 1199.3162 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.1125 ¢
- CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.1774 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 16, 21, 37, 95
Badness (Sintel): 0.458