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The 5-limit parent comma for the '''diaschismic family''' is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma|diaschisma]]. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or '''srutal''', temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo|34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo|46edo]], [[56edo|56edo]], [[58edo|58edo]] or [[80edo|80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo|12edo]] and [[22edo|22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.
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[[Tuning_Ranges_of_Regular_Temperaments|valid range]]: [600.000 to 720.000] (2 to 5)
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The 5-limit parent comma for the **diaschismic family** is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or **srutal**, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]] or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.


[[Tuning Ranges of Regular Temperaments|valid range]]: [600.000 to 720.000] (2 to 5)
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
strict range: [701.955, 706.843]
strict range: [701.955, 706.843]


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 704.898
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 704.898


Map: [&lt;2 0 11|, &lt;0 1 -2|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11|, &lt;0 1 -2|]
EDOs: 34, 46, 80, 206c, 286bc
EDOs: 34, 46, 80, 206c, 286bc


==Seven limit children==  
==Seven limit children==
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as [[36_35|36/35]], the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7. Adding 4375/4374 does no significant tuning damage, so for that we keep the 5-limit label srutal.
The second comma of the [[Normal_lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as [[36/35|36/35]], the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7. Adding 4375/4374 does no significant tuning damage, so for that we keep the 5-limit label srutal.


=Srutal=
=Srutal=
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valid range: [703.448, 705.882] (58 to 34d)
valid range: [703.448, 705.882] (58 to 34d)
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
strict range: [703.448, 705.882]
strict range: [703.448, 705.882]


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -42|, &lt;0 1 -2 15|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -42|, &lt;0 1 -2 15|]
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;2 -4 30 -11 42 81||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;2 -4 30 -11 42 81||
EDOs: 46, 80, 126, 206cd, 332bcd
EDOs: 46, 80, 126, 206cd, 332bcd
Badness: 0.0915
Badness: 0.0915


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valid range: [704.348, 705.882] (46 to 34d)
valid range: [704.348, 705.882] (46 to 34d)
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
strict range: [704.348, 705.882]
strict range: [704.348, 705.882]


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -42 -28|, &lt;0 1 -2 15 11|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -42 -28|, &lt;0 1 -2 15 11|]
EDOs: 46, 80, 126, 206cd
EDOs: 46, 80, 126, 206cd
Badness: 0.0353
Badness: 0.0353


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valid range: [704.348, 705.882] (46 to 34d)
valid range: [704.348, 705.882] (46 to 34d)
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]
strict range: [704.348, 705.882]
strict range: [704.348, 705.882]


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -42 -28 -18|, &lt;0 1 -2 15 11 8|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -42 -28 -18|, &lt;0 1 -2 15 11 8|]
EDOs: 34d, 46, 80, 206cd, 286bcde
EDOs: 34d, 46, 80, 206cd, 286bcde
Badness: 0.0253
Badness: 0.0253


=Pajara=  
=Pajara=
Main article: [[Pajara]]
Main article: [[pajara|Pajara]]
Pajara, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention [[Paul Erlich]]) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a [[10_7|10/7]] and a [[7_5|7/5]]. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.
 
Pajara, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention [[Paul_Erlich|Paul Erlich]]) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a [[10/7|10/7]] and a [[7/5|7/5]]. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.


Pajara extends nicely to an 11-limit version, for which the 56 tuning can be used, but a good alternative is to make the major thirds pure by setting the fifth to be 706.843 cents. Now 99/98, 100/99, 176/175 and 896/891 are being tempered out.
Pajara extends nicely to an 11-limit version, for which the 56 tuning can be used, but a good alternative is to make the major thirds pure by setting the fifth to be 706.843 cents. Now 99/98, 100/99, 176/175 and 896/891 are being tempered out.
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valid range: [700.000, 720.000] (12 to 10)
valid range: [700.000, 720.000] (12 to 10)
nice range: [701.955, 715.587]
nice range: [701.955, 715.587]
strict range:  [701.955, 715.587]
strict range:  [701.955, 715.587]


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.048
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.048


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2|]
EDOs: 22, 34, 56
EDOs: 22, 34, 56
Badness: 0.0200
Badness: 0.0200


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98
Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98


valid range: [700.000, 709.091] (12 to 22)
valid range: [700.000, 709.091] (12 to 22)
nice range: [701.955, 715.587]
nice range: [701.955, 715.587]
strict range: [701.955, 709.091]
strict range: [701.955, 709.091]


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 706.885
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 706.885


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 26|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 -6|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 26|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 -6|]
EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146
EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146
Badness: 0.0203
Badness: 0.0203


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valid range: []
valid range: []
nice range: [701.955, 738.573]
nice range: [701.955, 738.573]
strict range: []
strict range: []
 
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.919
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.919


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 26 1|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 -6 2|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 26 1|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 -6 2|]
EDOs: 12, 22
EDOs: 12, 22
Badness: 0.0276
Badness: 0.0276


==Pajarous==  
==Pajarous==
Commas: 50/49, 55/54, 64/63
Commas: 50/49, 55/54, 64/63


valid range: 709.091 (22)
valid range: 709.091 (22)
nice range: [701.955, 715.803]
nice range: [701.955, 715.803]
strict range: 709.091
strict range: 709.091


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 -9|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 5|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 -9|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 5|]
EDOs: 10, 12e, 22, 120bce, 142bce
EDOs: 10, 12e, 22, 120bce, 142bce
Badness: 0.0283
Badness: 0.0283


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valid range: []
valid range: []
nice range: [701.955, 738.573]
nice range: [701.955, 738.573]
strict range: []
strict range: []


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 -9 1|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 5 2|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 -9 1|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 5 2|]
EDOs: 10, 22, 54f, 76bdf
EDOs: 10, 22, 54f, 76bdf
Badness: 0.0252
Badness: 0.0252


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 7|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 0|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 7|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 0|]
EDOs: 10, 12, 22e, 34de
EDOs: 10, 12, 22e, 34de
Badness: 0.0238
Badness: 0.0238


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 7 17|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 0 -3|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 7 17|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 0 -3|]
EDOs: 10, 12f, 22ef, 34def
EDOs: 10, 12f, 22ef, 34def
Badness: 0.0205
Badness: 0.0205


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 -9 17|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 5 -3|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 12 -9 17|, &lt;0 1 -2 -2 5 -3|]
EDOs: 10, 22f, 32f, 54f
EDOs: 10, 22f, 32f, 54f
Badness: 0.0274
Badness: 0.0274


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 10 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 -4 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 10 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 -4 -1|]
EDOs: 20, 22, 68d, 90d
EDOs: 20, 22, 68d, 90d
Badness: 0.0389
Badness: 0.0389


=Diaschismic=  
=Diaschismic=
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo|58et]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7_4|7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo|58et]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7/4|7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.


Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher limit rank two temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363. The 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; MOS of 34 notes and even more the 46 note MOS will encompass very great deal of it. Of course 46 or 58 equal provide alternatives which in many ways are similar, particularly in the case of 58.
Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher limit rank two temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363. The 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; MOS of 34 notes and even more the 46 note MOS will encompass very great deal of it. Of course 46 or 58 equal provide alternatives which in many ways are similar, particularly in the case of 58.
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Commas: 126/125, 2048/2025
Commas: 126/125, 2048/2025


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.681
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.681


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8|]
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c, 162c
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c, 162c


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891
Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.714
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.714


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31 45|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31 45|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12|]
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c, 162ce
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c, 162ce


==13-limit==  
==13-limit==
Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025
Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.704
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.704


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31 45 55|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12 -15|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31 45 55|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12 -15|]
EDOs: [[46edo|46]], [[58edo|58]], [[104edo|104c]], [[162edo|162cef]]
EDOs: [[46edo|46]], [[58edo|58]], [[104edo|104c]], [[162edo|162cef]]


==17-limit==  
==17-limit==
Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255
Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.812
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 703.812


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31 45 55 5|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12 -15 1|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 31 45 55 5|, &lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12 -15 1|]
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c


=Keen=  
=Keen=
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;56 temperament. [[78edo|78et]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;56 temperament. [[78edo|78et]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &lt;&lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.


Commas: 2048/2025, 875/864
Commas: 2048/2025, 875/864


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.571
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.571


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -23|, &lt;0 1 -2 9|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -23|, &lt;0 1 -2 9|]
EDOs: 22, 56, 78, 134b, 212b, 290b
EDOs: 22, 56, 78, 134b, 212b, 290b


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215
Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.609
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 707.609


Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -23 26|, &lt;0 1 -2 9 -6|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -23 26|, &lt;0 1 -2 9 -6|]
EDOs: 22, 56, 78, 212bf, 290bf
EDOs: 22, 56, 78, 212bf, 290bf


=Bidia=  
=Bidia=
Bidia adds 3136/3125 to the commas, splitting the period into 1/4 octave. It may be called the 12&amp;56 temperament.
Bidia adds 3136/3125 to the commas, splitting the period into 1/4 octave. It may be called the 12&amp;56 temperament.


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Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5|]
Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5|]
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24||
EDOs: 12, 56, 68, 80, 148d
EDOs: 12, 56, 68, 80, 148d
Badness: 0.0565
Badness: 0.0565


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 1375/1372
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 1375/1372


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Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]
Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]
EDOs: 12, 68, 80
EDOs: 12, 68, 80
Badness: 0.0402
Badness: 0.0402


==13-limit==  
==13-limit==
Commas: 176/175, 325/324, 640/637, 896/891
Commas: 176/175, 325/324, 640/637, 896/891


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Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]
Map: [&lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]
EDOs: 12, 68, 80, 148d, 228bcd, 376bcdf
EDOs: 12, 68, 80, 148d, 228bcd, 376bcdf
Badness: 0.0411
Badness: 0.0411


=Echidna=  
=Echidna=
Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &lt;&lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;58 temperament. [[58edo|58et]] or [[80edo|80et]] make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &lt;138 219 321 388|.
Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &lt;&lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;58 temperament. [[58edo|58et]] or [[80edo|80et]] make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &lt;138 219 321 388|.


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Commas: 2048/2025, 1728/1715
Commas: 2048/2025, 1728/1715


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.856
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.856


Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2|, &lt;0 3 -6 5|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2|, &lt;0 3 -6 5|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cd, 218cd
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cd, 218cd
Badness: 0.0580
Badness: 0.0580


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539


11-limit minimax
11-limit minimax
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |7/4 0 0 1/4 -1/4&gt;, |2 0 0 -1/2 1/2&gt;,
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |7/4 0 0 1/4 -1/4&gt;, |2 0 0 -1/2 1/2&gt;,
|37/12 0 0 5/12 -5/12&gt;, |37/12 0 0 -7/12 7/12&gt;]
|37/12 0 0 5/12 -5/12&gt;, |37/12 0 0 -7/12 7/12&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/7
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/7


Minimax generator: (224/11)^(1/12) = 434.792
Minimax generator: (224/11)^(1/12) = 434.792
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.852
 
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.852


Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde, 218cde
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde, 218cde
Badness: 0.0260
Badness: 0.0260


==13-limit==  
==13-limit==
Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539
Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.756
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.756


Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde
Badness: 0.0237
Badness: 0.0237


==17-limit==  
==17-limit==
Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539
Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.816
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 434.816


Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16 3|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 2 12 19 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16 3|]
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde
Badness: 0.0203
Badness: 0.0203


=Echidnic=  
=Echidnic=
Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024
Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 234.492
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 234.492


Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6|, &lt;0 3 -6 -1|]
EDOs: 10, 36, 46, 194bcd, 240bcd, 286bcd, 332bcd
EDOs: 10, 36, 46, 194bcd, 240bcd, 286bcd, 332bcd
Badness: 0.0722
Badness: 0.0722


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 385/384, 441/440, 686/675
Commas: 385/384, 441/440, 686/675


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 235.096
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 235.096


Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6 3|, &lt;0 3 -6 -1 10|]
Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6 3|, &lt;0 3 -6 -1 10|]
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 342bcd
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 342bcd
Badness: 0.0451
Badness: 0.0451


==13-limit==  
==13-limit==
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 235.088
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 235.088


Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6 3 7|, &lt;0 3 -6 -1 10 1|]
Map: [&lt;2 2 7 6 3 7|, &lt;0 3 -6 -1 10 1|]
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148f, 194bcdf
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148f, 194bcdf
Badness: 0.0289
Badness: 0.0289


Compositions:
Compositions:


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(the description says "lemba" which has a similar sale structure but different mapping for 5)
(the description says "lemba" which has a similar sale structure but different mapping for 5)


=Shrutar=  
=Shrutar=
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. [[68edo]] makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &lt;&lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. [[68edo|68edo]] makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.


By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.
By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.
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Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 52.811
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 52.811


Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2|, &lt;0 2 -4 7|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2|, &lt;0 2 -4 7|]
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 182b, 250bc
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 182b, 250bc


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 52.680
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 52.680


Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 296bce, 410bce
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 296bce, 410bce


==13-limit==  
==13-limit==
Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243
Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114
Badness: 0.0281
Badness: 0.0281


==17-limit==  
==17-limit==
Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195
Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114
Badness: 0.0187
Badness: 0.0187


==19-limit==  
==19-limit==
Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342
Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2 17|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6 -10|, &lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2 17|]
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182bef
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182bef
Badness: 0.0175
Badness: 0.0175


=Sruti=  
=Sruti=
Commas: 2048/2025, 19683/19600
Commas: 2048/2025, 19683/19600


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -15|, &lt;0 2 -4 13|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -15|, &lt;0 2 -4 13|]
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 26 -22 30 83||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 26 -22 30 83||
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cd, 208cd, 266cd
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cd, 208cd, 266cd
Badness: 0.1174
Badness: 0.1174


==11-limit==  
==11-limit==
Commas: 176/175, 243/242, 896/891
Commas: 176/175, 243/242, 896/891


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -15 -1|, &lt;0 2 -4 13 5|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -15 -1|, &lt;0 2 -4 13 5|]
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cde, 208cde
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cde, 208cde
Badness: 0.0415
Badness: 0.0415


==13-limit==  
==13-limit==
Commas: 144/143, 176/175, 351/350, 676/675
Commas: 144/143, 176/175, 351/350, 676/675


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -15 -1 9|, &lt;0 2 -4 13 5 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 -15 -1 9|, &lt;0 2 -4 13 5 -1|]
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cdef, 208cdef
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cdef, 208cdef
Badness: 0.0238
Badness: 0.0238


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 4|, &lt;0 2 -4 1|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 4|, &lt;0 2 -4 1|]
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 2 -22 -8 27||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 2 -22 -8 27||
EDOs: 10, 24, 34
EDOs: 10, 24, 34
Badness: 0.0780
Badness: 0.0780


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 4 -1|, &lt;0 2 -4 1 5|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 4 -1|, &lt;0 2 -4 1 5|]
EDOs: 10, 24, 34, 58d, 92de
EDOs: 10, 24, 34, 58d, 92de
Badness: 0.0493
Badness: 0.0493


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Map: [&lt;2 0 11 4 -1 9|, &lt;0 2 -4 1 5 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 0 11 4 -1 9|, &lt;0 2 -4 1 5 -1|]
EDOs: 10, 24, 34, 58d, 92def
EDOs: 10, 24, 34, 58d, 92def
Badness: 0.0308
Badness: 0.0308


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 11|, &lt;0 2 -4 -5|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 11|, &lt;0 2 -4 -5|]
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1||
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1||
EDOs: 22d, 24
EDOs: 22d, 24
Badness: 0.1576
Badness: 0.1576


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 11 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 -5 -1|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 11 8|, &lt;0 2 -4 -5 -1|]
EDOs: 22d, 24
EDOs: 22d, 24
Badness: 0.0635
Badness: 0.0635


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Map: [&lt;2 1 9 11 8 15|, &lt;0 2 -4 -5 -1 -7|]
Map: [&lt;2 1 9 11 8 15|, &lt;0 2 -4 -5 -1 -7|]
EDOs: 24
EDOs: 24
Badness: 0.0457
Badness: 0.0457
 
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&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:130 --&gt;The 5-limit parent comma for the &lt;strong&gt;diaschismic family&lt;/strong&gt; is 2048/2025, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/diaschisma"&gt;diaschisma&lt;/a&gt;. Its monzo is |11 -4 -2&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -11|| for the wedgie for 5-limit diaschismic, or &lt;strong&gt;srutal&lt;/strong&gt;, temperament. This tells us the period is half an octave, the GCD of 2 and -4, and that the generator is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/34edo"&gt;34edo&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/56edo"&gt;56edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58edo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80edo&lt;/a&gt; being other possibilities. Both &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt; support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Tuning%20Ranges%20of%20Regular%20Temperaments"&gt;valid range&lt;/a&gt;: [600.000 to 720.000] (2 to 5)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [701.955, 706.843]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: ~3/2 = 704.898&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 34, 46, 80, 206c, 286bc&lt;br /&gt;
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The second comma of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal comma list&lt;/a&gt; defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Pajara derives from 64/63 and is a popular and well-known choice. Diaschismic adds 2097152/2066715 to obtain 7-limit harmony by more complex methods, but with greater accuracy. Keen adds 2240/2187, echidna 1728/1715 and shrutar 245/243, the sensamagic comma. The pajara, diaschismic and keen keep the same 1/2 octave period and fifth generator, but shrutar has a generator of a quarter-tone (which can be taken as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/36_35"&gt;36/35&lt;/a&gt;, the septimal quarter-tone) and echidna has a generator of 9/7. Adding 4375/4374 does no significant tuning damage, so for that we keep the 5-limit label srutal.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc1"&gt;&lt;a name="Srutal"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 --&gt;Srutal&lt;/h1&gt;
Commas: 2048/2025, 4375/4374&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [703.448, 705.882] (58 to 34d)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [703.448, 705.882]&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 704.814&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -42|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 15|]&lt;br /&gt;
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 30 -11 42 81||&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 80, 126, 206cd, 332bcd&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0915&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 1331/1323&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [704.348, 705.882] (46 to 34d)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [704.348, 705.882]&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 704.856&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -42 -28|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 15 11|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 80, 126, 206cd&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0353&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 169/168, 176/175, 325/324, 364/363&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [704.348, 705.882] (46 to 34d)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 706.843]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [704.348, 705.882]&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 704.881&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -42 -28 -18|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 15 11 8|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 34d, 46, 80, 206cd, 286bcde&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0253&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc4"&gt;&lt;a name="Pajara"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 --&gt;Pajara&lt;/h1&gt;
Main article: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Pajara"&gt;Pajara&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Pajara, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -4 -11 -12 2|| is closely associated with 22et (not to mention &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Paul%20Erlich"&gt;Paul Erlich&lt;/a&gt;) but other tunings are possible. The 1/2 octave period serves as both a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/10_7"&gt;10/7&lt;/a&gt; and a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_5"&gt;7/5&lt;/a&gt;. Aside from 22et, 34 with the val &amp;lt;34 54 79 96| and 56 with the val &amp;lt;56 89 130 158| are are interesting alternatives, with more accpetable fifths, and a tetrad which is more clearly a dominant seventh. As such, they are closer to the tuning of 12et and of common practice Western music in general, while retaining the distictiveness of a sharp fifth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pajara extends nicely to an 11-limit version, for which the 56 tuning can be used, but a good alternative is to make the major thirds pure by setting the fifth to be 706.843 cents. Now 99/98, 100/99, 176/175 and 896/891 are being tempered out.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [700.000, 720.000] (12 to 10)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 715.587]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range:  [701.955, 715.587]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 707.048&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 34, 56&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0200&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: [700.000, 709.091] (12 to 22)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 715.587]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: [701.955, 709.091]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 706.885&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 26|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 -6|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 34, 56, 146&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0203&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 65/63, 99/98&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: []&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 738.573]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: []&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.919&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 26 1|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 -6 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 12, 22&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0276&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 55/54, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: 709.091 (22)&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 715.803]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: 709.091&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 709.578&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 -9|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 5|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 12e, 22, 120bce, 142bce&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0283&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 55/54, 64/63, 65/63&lt;br /&gt;
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valid range: []&lt;br /&gt;
nice range: [701.955, 738.573]&lt;br /&gt;
strict range: []&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 710.240&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 -9 1|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 5 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 22, 54f, 76bdf&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0252&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 45/44, 50/49, 56/55&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.524&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 7|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 0|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 12, 22e, 34de&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0238&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 40/39, 45/44, 50/49, 56/55&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 707.442&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 7 17|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 0 -3|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 12f, 22ef, 34def&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0205&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 40/39, 50/49, 55/54, 64/63&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator ~3/2 = 710.818&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 12 -9 17|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -2 5 -3|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 22f, 32f, 54f&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0274&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 50/49, 64/63, 121/120 &lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 546.383&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 10 8|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 -4 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 20, 22, 68d, 90d&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0389&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:26:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc13"&gt;&lt;a name="Diaschismic"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:26 --&gt;Diaschismic&lt;/h1&gt;
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds 126/125 or 5120/5103 to the set of commas, and it can also be called 46&amp;amp;58. However described, diaschismic has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 -16 -11 -31 -26||, with a 1/2 period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58et&lt;/a&gt; provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58et.&lt;br /&gt;
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Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher limit rank two temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363. The 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; MOS of 34 notes and even more the 46 note MOS will encompass very great deal of it. Of course 46 or 58 equal provide alternatives which in many ways are similar, particularly in the case of 58.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 2048/2025&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 703.681&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 31|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -8|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c, 162c&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 176/175, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 703.714&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 31 45|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c, 162ce&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 2048/2025&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 703.704&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 31 45 55|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12 -15|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/46edo"&gt;46&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/104edo"&gt;104c&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/162edo"&gt;162cef&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 126/125, 136/135, 176/175, 196/195, 256/255&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 703.812&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 31 45 55 5|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 -8 -12 -15 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 46, 58, 104c&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:34:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc17"&gt;&lt;a name="Keen"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:34 --&gt;Keen&lt;/h1&gt;
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas, and has wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 18 -11 23 53||. It may also be described as the 22&amp;amp;56 temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/78edo"&gt;78et&lt;/a&gt; is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -4 18 -12 ...||, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 2048/2025, 875/864&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 707.571&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -23|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 9|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 56, 78, 134b, 212b, 290b&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 100/99, 385/384, 1232/1215&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 707.609&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -23 26|, &amp;lt;0 1 -2 9 -6|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 56, 78, 212bf, 290bf&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:38:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc19"&gt;&lt;a name="Bidia"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:38 --&gt;Bidia&lt;/h1&gt;
Bidia adds 3136/3125 to the commas, splitting the period into 1/4 octave. It may be called the 12&amp;amp;56 temperament.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 2048/2025, 3136/3125&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.364&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;4 0 22 43|,&amp;lt;0 1 -2 -5|]&lt;br /&gt;
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24||&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 12, 56, 68, 80, 148d&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0565&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:40:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc20"&gt;&lt;a name="Bidia-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:40 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 1375/1372&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.087&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&amp;lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 12, 68, 80&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0402&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:42:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc21"&gt;&lt;a name="Bidia-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:42 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 176/175, 325/324, 640/637, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.301&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;4 0 22 43 71|,&amp;lt;0 1 -2 -5 -9|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 12, 68, 80, 148d, 228bcd, 376bcdf&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0411&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:44:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc22"&gt;&lt;a name="Echidna"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:44 --&gt;Echidna&lt;/h1&gt;
Echidna adds 1728/1715 to the commas and takes 9/7 as a generator. It has a wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 -12 10 -33 -1 57|| and may be called the 22&amp;amp;58 temperament. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/58edo"&gt;58et&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/80edo"&gt;80et&lt;/a&gt; make for good tunings, or their vals can be add to &amp;lt;138 219 321 388|.&lt;br /&gt;
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Echidna becomes more interesting when extended to be an 11-limit temperament by adding 176/175, 896/891 or 540/539 to the commas, where the same tunings can be used as before. It then is able to represent the entire 11-limit diamond to within about six cents of error, within a compass of 24 notes. The 28 note 2MOS gives scope for this, and the 36 note MOS much more.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 2048/2025, 1728/1715&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 434.856&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 2|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 5|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cd, 218cd&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0580&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 176/175, 896/891, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
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11-limit minimax&lt;br /&gt;
[|1 0 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |7/4 0 0 1/4 -1/4&amp;gt;, |2 0 0 -1/2 1/2&amp;gt;,&lt;br /&gt;
|37/12 0 0 5/12 -5/12&amp;gt;, |37/12 0 0 -7/12 7/12&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/7&lt;br /&gt;
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Minimax generator: (224/11)^(1/12) = 434.792&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 434.852&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 2 12|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 5 -7|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde, 218cde&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0260&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:48:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc24"&gt;&lt;a name="Echidna-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:48 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 176/175, 351/350, 364/363, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 434.756&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 2 12 19|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0237&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:50:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc25"&gt;&lt;a name="Echidna-17-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:50 --&gt;17-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 136/135, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255, 540/539&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 434.816&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 2 12 19 6|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 5 -7 -16 3|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 58, 80, 138cde&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0203&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:52:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc26"&gt;&lt;a name="Echidnic"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:52 --&gt;Echidnic&lt;/h1&gt;
Commas: 686/675, 1029/1024&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 234.492&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 2 7 6|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 36, 46, 194bcd, 240bcd, 286bcd, 332bcd&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0722&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:54:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc27"&gt;&lt;a name="Echidnic-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:54 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 385/384, 441/440, 686/675&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 235.096&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 2 7 6 3|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 -1 10|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148, 342bcd&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0451&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:56:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc28"&gt;&lt;a name="Echidnic-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:56 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 91/90, 169/168, 385/384, 441/440&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 235.088&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 2 7 6 3 7|, &amp;lt;0 3 -6 -1 10 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 46, 102, 148f, 194bcdf&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0289&lt;br /&gt;
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Compositions:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextUrlRule:582:http://untwelve.org/2011competition_audio/Kosmorsky-A_Stiff_Shot_of_Turpentine.mp3 --&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://untwelve.org/2011competition_audio/Kosmorsky-A_Stiff_Shot_of_Turpentine.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://untwelve.org/2011competition_audio/Kosmorsky-A_Stiff_Shot_of_Turpentine.mp3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextUrlRule:582 --&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(the description says &amp;quot;lemba&amp;quot; which has a similar sale structure but different mapping for 5)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:58:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc29"&gt;&lt;a name="Shrutar"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:58 --&gt;Shrutar&lt;/h1&gt;
Shrutar adds 245/243 to the commas, and also tempers out 6144/6125. With wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 14 -22 11 55||, it can also be described as 22&amp;amp;46. Its generator can be taken as either 36/35 or 35/24; the latter is interesting since along with 15/14 and 21/20, it connects opposite sides of a hexany. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good tuning, but another and excellent choice is a generator of 14^(1/7), making 7s just.&lt;br /&gt;
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By adding 121/120 or 176/175 to the commas, shrutar can be extended to the 11-limit, which loses a bit of accuracy, but picks up low-complexity 11-limit harmony, making shrutar quite an interesting 11-limit system. 68, 114 or a 14^(1/7) generator can again be used as tunings.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 52.811&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 182b, 250bc&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:60:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc30"&gt;&lt;a name="Shrutar-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:60 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 2048/2025, 245/243, 121/120&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE generator&lt;/a&gt;: 52.680&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 46, 68, 114, 296bce, 410bce&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:62:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc31"&gt;&lt;a name="Shrutar-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:62 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.654&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0281&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:64:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc32"&gt;&lt;a name="Shrutar-17-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:64 --&gt;17-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.647&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0187&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:66:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc33"&gt;&lt;a name="Shrutar-19-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:66 --&gt;19-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 121/120, 136/135, 154/153, 176/175, 196/195, 343/342&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~28/27 = 52.730&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 -2 8 -10 6 -10|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 7 -1 16 2 17|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22, 24, 46, 68, 114, 182bef&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0175&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:68:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc34"&gt;&lt;a name="Sruti"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:68 --&gt;Sruti&lt;/h1&gt;
Commas: 2048/2025, 19683/19600&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~175/144 = 351.876&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -15|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 13|]&lt;br /&gt;
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 26 -22 30 83||&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cd, 208cd, 266cd&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.1174&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:70:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc35"&gt;&lt;a name="Sruti-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:70 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 176/175, 243/242, 896/891&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 351.863&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -15 -1|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 13 5|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cde, 208cde&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0415&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:72:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc36"&gt;&lt;a name="Sruti-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:72 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 144/143, 176/175, 351/350, 676/675&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~11/9 = 351.886&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 -15 -1 9|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 13 5 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 24, 34d, 58, 150cdef, 208cdef&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0238&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:74:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc37"&gt;&lt;a name="Anguirus"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:74 --&gt;Anguirus&lt;/h1&gt;
Commas: 49/48, 2048/2025&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 246.979&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 4|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 1|]&lt;br /&gt;
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 2 -22 -8 27||&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 24, 34&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0780&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:76:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc38"&gt;&lt;a name="Anguirus-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:76 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 49/48, 56/55, 243/242&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 247.816&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 4 -1|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 1 5|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 24, 34, 58d, 92de&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0493&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:78:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc39"&gt;&lt;a name="Anguirus-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:78 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 49/48 56/55 91/90 352/351&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 247.691&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 0 11 4 -1 9|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 1 5 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 10, 24, 34, 58d, 92def&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0308&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:80:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc40"&gt;&lt;a name="Shru"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:80 --&gt;Shru&lt;/h1&gt;
Commas: 392/375, 1323/1280&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~64/63 =  50.135&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 11|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 -5|]&lt;br /&gt;
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1||&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22d, 24&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.1576&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:82:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc41"&gt;&lt;a name="Shru-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:82 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 56/55, 77/75, 1323/1280&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~64/63 = 50.130&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 11 8|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 -5 -1|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 22d, 24&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0635&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:84:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc42"&gt;&lt;a name="Shru-13-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:84 --&gt;13-limit&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 56/55, 77/75, 105/104, 507/500&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~64/63 = 50.535&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;2 1 9 11 8 15|, &amp;lt;0 2 -4 -5 -1 -7|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 24&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0457&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>