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641edo is only [[consistent]] to the [[5-odd-limit]]. Since both [[harmonic]]s [[7/1|7]] and [[11/1|11]] are about halfway between its steps, and since harmonic [[5/1|5]] is also off by more than a third step, it can be used as a dual-5 dual-7 dual-11 temperament. Alternatively, it can be used as a 2.3.5.13.17.19 [[subgroup]] temperament, as it is consistent in the no-7 no-11 19-odd-limit.  
641edo is only [[consistent]] to the [[5-odd-limit]]. Since both [[harmonic]]s [[7/1|7]] and [[11/1|11]] are about halfway between its steps, and since harmonic [[5/1|5]] is also off by more than a third step, it can be used as a dual-5 dual-7 dual-11 temperament. Alternatively, it can be used as a 2.3.5.13.17.19 [[subgroup]] temperament, as it is consistent in the no-7 no-11 19-odd-limit.  


To start with, consider the 641d val {{val| 641 1016 1488 '''1799''' 2217 2372 }} in the 13-limit, which [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[625/624]], [[2200/2197]], [[4459/4455]], 14641/14625, and [[19712/19683]]. The alternative 641df val, {{val| 641 1016 1488 '''1799''' 2217 '''2371''' }}, tempers out [[676/675]], [[1001/1000]], 19712/19683, [[31213/31104]], and 983125/979776. The 641ce val, {{val| 641 1016 '''1089''' 1800 '''2218''' 2372 }}, tempers out 676/675, 1001/1000, [[6144/6125]], [[10985/10976]], and 85294/85184.  
To start with, consider the 641d val {{val| 641 1016 1488 '''1799''' 2217 2372 }} in the 13-limit, which [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[625/624]], [[2200/2197]], [[4459/4455]], 14641/14625, and [[19712/19683]]. The alternative 641df val, {{val| 641 1016 1488 '''1799''' 2217 '''2371''' }}, tempers out [[676/675]], [[1001/1000]], 19712/19683, [[31213/31104]], and 983125/979776. The 641ce val, {{val| 641 1016 '''1489''' 1800 '''2218''' 2372 }}, tempers out 676/675, 1001/1000, [[6144/6125]], [[10985/10976]], and 85294/85184.  


=== Odd harmonics ===
=== Odd harmonics ===

Revision as of 07:11, 21 July 2024

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Prime factorization 641 (prime)
Step size 1.87207 ¢ 
Fifth 375\641 (702.028 ¢)
Semitones (A1:m2) 61:48 (114.2 ¢ : 89.86 ¢)
Consistency limit 5
Distinct consistency limit 5

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Theory

641edo is only consistent to the 5-odd-limit. Since both harmonics 7 and 11 are about halfway between its steps, and since harmonic 5 is also off by more than a third step, it can be used as a dual-5 dual-7 dual-11 temperament. Alternatively, it can be used as a 2.3.5.13.17.19 subgroup temperament, as it is consistent in the no-7 no-11 19-odd-limit.

To start with, consider the 641d val 641 1016 1488 1799 2217 2372] in the 13-limit, which tempers out 625/624, 2200/2197, 4459/4455, 14641/14625, and 19712/19683. The alternative 641df val, 641 1016 1488 1799 2217 2371], tempers out 676/675, 1001/1000, 19712/19683, 31213/31104, and 983125/979776. The 641ce val, 641 1016 1489 1800 2218 2372], tempers out 676/675, 1001/1000, 6144/6125, 10985/10976, and 85294/85184.

Odd harmonics

Approximation of odd harmonics in 641edo
Harmonic 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23
Error Absolute (¢) +0.073 -0.666 +0.909 +0.146 -0.928 +0.034 -0.593 -0.119 +0.147 -0.890 +0.743
Relative (%) +3.9 -35.6 +48.5 +7.8 -49.6 +1.8 -31.7 -6.4 +7.8 -47.5 +39.7
Steps
(reduced)
1016
(375)
1488
(206)
1800
(518)
2032
(109)
2217
(294)
2372
(449)
2504
(581)
2620
(56)
2723
(159)
2815
(251)
2900
(336)

Subsets and supersets

641edo is the 116th prime edo. 1282edo, which doubles it, gives a good correction to the harmonics 7 and 11.

Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma List Mapping Optimal
8ve Stretch (¢)
Tuning Error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3 [1016 -641 [641 1016]] -0.0231 0.0231 1.23
2.3.5 [24 -21 4, [-56 -13 33 [641 1016 1488]] +0.0803 0.1474 7.87

Rank-2 temperaments

Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
Periods
per 8ve
Generator* Cents* Associated
Ratio*
Temperaments
1 254\641 475.507 320/243 Vulture

* octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if it is distinct