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:::::: Alright, so now it's back to me. I agree with Dave and Fredg999 that we should change "Optimal GPV sequence" to "Optimal ET sequence". And I'll go even another step further: I think that "optimal" here can and should also be made to further capture a third idea, the one Dave pointed out: that these are ETs which support the given temperament. I think there's simply too much detail to this concept to capture it all explicitly in the name, and "optimal" does a suitable job at encapsulating all three of these ideas. | :::::: Alright, so now it's back to me. I agree with Dave and Fredg999 that we should change "Optimal GPV sequence" to "Optimal ET sequence". And I'll go even another step further: I think that "optimal" here can and should also be made to further capture a third idea, the one Dave pointed out: that these are ETs which support the given temperament. I think there's simply too much detail to this concept to capture it all explicitly in the name, and "optimal" does a suitable job at encapsulating all three of these ideas. | ||
:::::: --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | :::::: --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:11, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::: Moved. To be clear, I was thinking about rigorously defining it and back then GPV was indeed used to make the sequence, before the new proposal arrived that the GPV constraint may be assimilated into "optimal". [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::: I agree that "supporting" should be explicitly mentioned in any description of the requirements of the ETs in an "optimal ET sequence". [[User:Dave Keenan|Dave Keenan]] ([[User talk:Dave Keenan|talk]]) 20:46, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | :::: I agree that "supporting" should be explicitly mentioned in any description of the requirements of the ETs in an "optimal ET sequence". [[User:Dave Keenan|Dave Keenan]] ([[User talk:Dave Keenan|talk]]) 20:46, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
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I think that almost always (perhaps simply always) this error-decreasing constraint results in a list whose member ETs are sorted by increasing complexity. I would be interested to see if this is true, and if so, note it in the article. Does anyone have an idea how to prove this one way or the other? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | I think that almost always (perhaps simply always) this error-decreasing constraint results in a list whose member ETs are sorted by increasing complexity. I would be interested to see if this is true, and if so, note it in the article. Does anyone have an idea how to prove this one way or the other? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:12, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
: The set of all GPVs can be sorted by complexity and is used here so that a "bigger ET" comes later than a "smaller ET". There's nothing to prove. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Can ETs with non-uniform maps ever be optimal? == | == Can ETs with non-uniform maps ever be optimal? == | ||
On another discussion thread on this page, the question arose as to whether an ET with a non-uniform map could ever make it into an optimal ET sequence. I wanted to set this question aside on its own topic for further discussion. I agree with Fredg999 and Dave that it is an interesting question, but at this time, I don't have any particular ideas on how to answer it. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:14, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | On another discussion thread on this page, the question arose as to whether an ET with a non-uniform map could ever make it into an optimal ET sequence. I wanted to set this question aside on its own topic for further discussion. I agree with Fredg999 and Dave that it is an interesting question, but at this time, I don't have any particular ideas on how to answer it. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 19:14, 4 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
: Hard to answer. Guess it could happen in the higher ranks. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:54, 5 May 2023 (UTC) |