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Sextilimeans: maybe FloraC misread the mapping? subgroup is no-threes, it's 2.5.7.11.13 and it is the 5th harmonic that is reached 482 generators down.
m Clarify that the mappings are subgroup-val mappings, so that I won't make the same mistake again
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[[Comma list]]: 6656/6655, {{monzo| -119 -46 15 47 }}
[[Comma list]]: 6656/6655, {{monzo| -119 -46 15 47 }}


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 74 3 74 }}, {{val| 0 -156 1 -153 }}]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 74 3 74 }}, {{val| 0 -156 1 -153 }}]


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~11/8 = 551.370
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~11/8 = 551.370
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Named so because it is described as the 1789 & 3125 temperament due to 3125 providing the optimal patent val for the jacobin comma, 3125 is 5 to the 5th power, and Estates General were called by Louis XVI on 5th May 1789 (05/05). Defined starting with the 2.5.11.13.19 subgroup, upwards to the 2.5.11.13.19.23.29.31 subgroup.
Named so because it is described as the 1789 & 3125 temperament due to 3125 providing the optimal patent val for the jacobin comma, 3125 is 5 to the 5th power, and Estates General were called by Louis XVI on 5th May 1789 (05/05). Defined starting with the 2.5.11.13.19 subgroup, upwards to the 2.5.11.13.19.23.29.31 subgroup.


Subgroup: 2.5.11.13.19
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.11.13.19


Comma list: 6656/6655, 40960000000/40943078891, {{monzo| -133 50 -7 18 -6 }}
[[Comma list]]: 6656/6655, 40960000000/40943078891, {{monzo| -133 50 -7 18 -6 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 }}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 }}]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 }}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 }}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2588443885831192576/1914932769775390625 = 521.856
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2588443885831192576/1914932769775390625 = 521.856


=== 2.5.11.13.19.23 subgroup ===
=== 2.5.11.13.19.23 subgroup ===
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Comma list: 6656/6655, 62500/62491, 190676992/190653125, {{Monzo|-92 23 -2 14 -10  8}}
Comma list: 6656/6655, 62500/62491, 190676992/190653125, {{Monzo|-92 23 -2 14 -10  8}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 579}}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 -1321}}]
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 579}}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 -1321}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2592407900127232/1918105439453125 = 521.856
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2592407900127232/1918105439453125 = 521.856
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Comma list: 6656/6655, 62500/62491, 190676992/190653125, 7592198144/7591796875, 897740062375/897648164864
Comma list: 6656/6655, 62500/62491, 190676992/190653125, 7592198144/7591796875, 897740062375/897648164864


Mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 579 251}}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 -1321 -566}}]
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 579 251}}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 -1321 -566}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~184000/136097 = 521.856
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~184000/136097 = 521.856
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Comma list: 6656/6655, 62500/62491, 9425/9424, 190676992/190653125, 507528125/507510784, 519411073024/519363934375
Comma list: 6656/6655, 62500/62491, 9425/9424, 190676992/190653125, 507528125/507510784, 519411073024/519363934375


Mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 579 251 -179}}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 -1321 -566 423}}]
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 118 -107 -212 450 579 251 -179}}, {{val| 0 -266 254 496 -1025 -1321 -566 423}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~80275/59392 = 521.856
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~80275/59392 = 521.856
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Sextilimeans is like sextilififths, but the fourth that is divided into 6 in sextilififths is tuned to a meantone fourth in the optimal tuning, or about 1/4.26-commma meantone. It should be noted, however, that this meantone fourth is not ~4/3 despite that the name may suggest so. In fact, the 3rd harmonic is not mapped in this temperament at all. It is described as the 229 & 1789 temperament.  
Sextilimeans is like sextilififths, but the fourth that is divided into 6 in sextilififths is tuned to a meantone fourth in the optimal tuning, or about 1/4.26-commma meantone. It should be noted, however, that this meantone fourth is not ~4/3 despite that the name may suggest so. In fact, the 3rd harmonic is not mapped in this temperament at all. It is described as the 229 & 1789 temperament.  


Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 6656/6655, 8122034375/8120172544, {{monzo|-12 -29 36 -2 -4}}
[[Comma list]]: 6656/6655, 8122034375/8120172544, {{monzo|-12 -29 36 -2 -4}}


Mapping: [{{val|1 36 23 -24 -45}}, {{val|0 -482 -289 393 697}}]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val|1 36 23 -24 -45}}, {{val|0 -482 -289 393 697}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~16807/16000 = 83.846
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~16807/16000 = 83.846


Vals: {{EDOs|229, 1789}}, ...
Vals: {{EDOs|229, 1789}}, ...
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Described as the 1789 & 2814 temperament, and named because 2814 divided in two is 1407, and Bastille storming happened on 14 July 1789. Unfortunately the 1407 & 1789 temperament in the patent val does not temper out the jacobin comma, so it is not included here.
Described as the 1789 & 2814 temperament, and named because 2814 divided in two is 1407, and Bastille storming happened on 14 July 1789. Unfortunately the 1407 & 1789 temperament in the patent val does not temper out the jacobin comma, so it is not included here.


Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 6656/6655, {{monzo|43 -18  0  5 -5}}, {{monzo|6 -30 -3  8 12}}
[[Comma list]]: 6656/6655, {{monzo|43 -18  0  5 -5}}, {{monzo|6 -30 -3  8 12}}


Mapping: [{{Val|1 26 -938 -51 -136}}, {{Val|0 -30 1192 69 177}}]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{Val|1 26 -938 -51 -136}}, {{Val|0 -30 1192 69 177}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~91750400/53094899 = 947.121
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~91750400/53094899 = 947.121


Vals: 1789, 2814, ...
Vals: 1789, 2814, ...