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=== Examples using heptatonic mosses ===
=== Examples using heptatonic mosses ===
As an example, let's use all six more heptatonic mosses: [[1L 6s]] (anti-archeotonic), [[2L 5s]] (antidiatonic), [[3L 4s]] (mosh), [[4L 3s]] (smitonic), 5L 2s (diatonic), and [[6L 1s]] (archeotonic) to get the table below. All modes are sorted by modal brightness. The familiar major and minor scales are shown in '''bold'''.
As an example, let's use all six more heptatonic mosses: [[1L 6s]] (onyx), [[2L 5s]] (antidiatonic), [[3L 4s]] (mosh), [[4L 3s]] (smitonic), 5L 2s (diatonic), and [[6L 1s]] (archeotonic) to get the table below. All modes are sorted by modal brightness. The familiar major and minor scales are shown in '''bold'''.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="2" |Anti-archeotonic
! colspan="2" |Onyx
! colspan="2" |Antidiatonic
! colspan="2" |Antidiatonic
! colspan="2" |Mosh
! colspan="2" |Mosh
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As of the default dark mode, a similar easy answer is to say it's the third-darkest mode. However, a more interesting answer is to say it's the mode that starts with an L and ends with an L. However, this definition does not work with scales that more s's than L's; 1L 6s, 2L 5s, and 3L 4s have no such modes that fit this description. This definition can be amended to say that '''the default dark mode is the darkest mode whose step pattern starts and ends with the same step size'''.
As of the default dark mode, a similar easy answer is to say it's the third-darkest mode. However, a more interesting answer is to say it's the mode that starts with an L and ends with an L. However, this definition does not work with scales that more s's than L's; 1L 6s, 2L 5s, and 3L 4s have no such modes that fit this description. This definition can be amended to say that '''the default dark mode is the darkest mode whose step pattern starts and ends with the same step size'''.


Using this assumption as a guide, we can then identify the corresponding major and minor modes of these mosses below in '''bold'''.
Using this assumption as a guide, we can then identify the corresponding major and minor modes of these mosses below in '''bold'''. Here, an emergent pattern starts to appear.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="2" |Anti-archeotonic
! colspan="2" |Onyx
! colspan="2" |Antidiatonic
! colspan="2" |Antidiatonic
! colspan="2" |Mosh
! colspan="2" |Mosh
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|sLLLLLL
|sLLLLLL
|}
|}
'''It's important to note that there are many ways to settle on a mos's default mode, and which mode is decided on may vary between musicians and their musical goals. This is just one way to answer the default mode question.'''
'''It's important to note that there are many ways to settle on a mos's default mode, and which mode is decided on may vary between musicians and their musical goals. This is just one way to answer the default mode question. (Also, that X-pattern.)'''


=== Example using a mos with far more notes ===
=== Example using a mos with far more notes ===
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Teasing out the properties of the diatonic minor scale is admittedly harder to justify. The current assumption is that the leading tone is lost, but the interval between the first and second degrees is still in its large form as seen diatonic major. This property only works for mosses that have more L's than s's, hence the amended definition described above. This currently remains untested.
Teasing out the properties of the diatonic minor scale is admittedly harder to justify. The current assumption is that the leading tone is lost, but the interval between the first and second degrees is still in its large form as seen diatonic major. This property only works for mosses that have more L's than s's, hence the amended definition described above. This currently remains untested.
===== Other possible answers =====
It's also possible to default to a mos's brightest mode, or its middle mode (such as the dorian mode for diatonic). This doesn't work with mosses with an even number of steps, since there will be two middle modes.


==== Comparison with other methods ====
==== Comparison with other methods ====
Interestingly, this definition of a default mode has some overlap with [[Naming Rank-2 Scales|Jake Freivald's method]] of enumerating a mos's modes.
Interestingly, this definition of a default mode has some overlap with [[Naming Rank-2 Scales|Jake Freivald's method]] of enumerating a mos's modes.

Revision as of 06:07, 23 November 2022

This page is for describing how I approach various xen-related topics. It's neither definitive nor pedagogical, rather it's insight into how I understand certain concepts and put them to use. (Mileage may vary.)

The default mode of a mos

By convention, the two main scales that most musicians talk about are the major and minor scales, or the ionian and aeolian modes. This convention is not something most musicians may agree on, but it provides a starting point when talking about music in a more general sense or in a context that is not as technical. Thus, when looking at a mos that falls outside the familiar diatonic scale (5L 2s), can this notion of a major and minor scale be generalized? This section shows my attempt at answering this question, with justification as to why.

Examples using heptatonic mosses

As an example, let's use all six more heptatonic mosses: 1L 6s (onyx), 2L 5s (antidiatonic), 3L 4s (mosh), 4L 3s (smitonic), 5L 2s (diatonic), and 6L 1s (archeotonic) to get the table below. All modes are sorted by modal brightness. The familiar major and minor scales are shown in bold.

Onyx Antidiatonic Mosh Smitonic Diatonic Archeotonic
Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern
Antizokalaraian Lssssss Antilocrian LssLsss Dril LsLsLss Nerevarine LLsLsLs Lydian LLLsLLs Ryonian LLLLLLs
Antitamashian sLsssss Antiphrygian LsssLss Gil LsLssLs Vivecan LsLLsLs Ionian (major) LLsLLLs Karakalian LLLLLsL
Anti-oukranian ssLssss Anti-aeolian sLssLss Kleeth LssLsLs Lorkhanic LsLsLLs Mixolydian LLsLLsL Lobonian LLLLsLL
Anti-horthathian sssLsss Antidorian sLsssLs Bish sLsLsLs Sothic LsLsLsL Dorian LsLLLsL Horthathian LLLsLLL
Antilobonian ssssLss Antimixolydian ssLssLs Fish sLsLssL Kagrenacan sLLsLsL Aeolian (minor) LsLLsLL Oukranian LLsLLLL
Antikarakalian sssssLs Anti-ionian ssLsssL Jwl sLssLsL Almalexian sLsLLsL Phrygian sLLLsLL Tamashian LsLLLLL
Anti-ryonian ssssssL Antilydian sssLssL Led ssLsLsL Dagothic sLsLsLL Locrian sLLsLLL Zokalarian sLLLLLL

There are a few ways to answer the default mode question. Looking at the scale pattern for ionian may provide some clues. Since it's the second-darkest mode, an easy answer is that it's the second-brightest mode. However, a more interesting answer is to say that the default bright mode is the darkest mode whose step pattern starts with L and ends with s.

As of the default dark mode, a similar easy answer is to say it's the third-darkest mode. However, a more interesting answer is to say it's the mode that starts with an L and ends with an L. However, this definition does not work with scales that more s's than L's; 1L 6s, 2L 5s, and 3L 4s have no such modes that fit this description. This definition can be amended to say that the default dark mode is the darkest mode whose step pattern starts and ends with the same step size.

Using this assumption as a guide, we can then identify the corresponding major and minor modes of these mosses below in bold. Here, an emergent pattern starts to appear.

Onyx Antidiatonic Mosh Smitonic Diatonic Archeotonic
Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern Mode Name Step Pattern
Antizokalaraian Lssssss Antilocrian LssLsss Dril LsLsLss Nerevarine LLsLsLs Lydian LLLsLLs Ryonian LLLLLLs
Antitamashian sLsssss Antiphrygian LsssLss Gil LsLssLs Vivecan LsLLsLs Ionian (major) LLsLLLs Karakalian LLLLLsL
Anti-oukranian ssLssss Anti-aeolian sLssLss Kleeth LssLsLs Lorkhanic LsLsLLs Mixolydian LLsLLsL Lobonian LLLLsLL
Anti-horthathian sssLsss Antidorian sLsssLs Bish sLsLsLs Sothic LsLsLsL Dorian LsLLLsL Horthathian LLLsLLL
Antilobonian ssssLss Antimixolydian ssLssLs Fish sLsLssL Kagrenacan sLLsLsL Aeolian (minor) LsLLsLL Oukranian LLsLLLL
Antikarakalian sssssLs Anti-ionian ssLsssL Jwl sLssLsL Almalexian sLsLLsL Phrygian sLLLsLL Tamashian LsLLLLL
Anti-ryonian ssssssL Antilydian sssLssL Led ssLsLsL Dagothic sLsLsLL Locrian sLLsLLL Zokalarian sLLLLLL

It's important to note that there are many ways to settle on a mos's default mode, and which mode is decided on may vary between musicians and their musical goals. This is just one way to answer the default mode question. (Also, that X-pattern.)

Example using a mos with far more notes

wip

Other notes

Justification

Personal experiments with 2L 5s had led me to believe that anti-aeolian is not the default bright mode, but rather antiphrygian. (wip: examples)

Additionally, 19edo (and 31edo) supports both the diatonic and mosh mosses, where the generating interval for 3L 4s is 5L 2s's major third. This means that 3L 4s is, in a sense, 19edo's equivalent of an augmented scale. Constructing a tertian chord with C as the root results in the chord C-E-G#, an augmented chord, but constructing a tertian chord where C is the highest note requires the notes Fb and Ab. This is reached by starting at C and going down two major thirds, which matches the description of mode 4|2 of mosh (up 4 generators and down 2 generators), which is the exact mode that is described as the default mode.

Biases

I'm admittedly biased at the idea that unfamiliar scales necessarily need some form of familiar ground. The diatonic major scale is said to contain a leading tone (the "s" at the end of its step pattern), hence preserving this property was deemed necessary for how I explore (and play with) unfamiliar mosses. For this reason, my notion of a mos's "default mode" is whatever its equivalent of a major scale is.

Teasing out the properties of the diatonic minor scale is admittedly harder to justify. The current assumption is that the leading tone is lost, but the interval between the first and second degrees is still in its large form as seen diatonic major. This property only works for mosses that have more L's than s's, hence the amended definition described above. This currently remains untested.

Other possible answers

It's also possible to default to a mos's brightest mode, or its middle mode (such as the dorian mode for diatonic). This doesn't work with mosses with an even number of steps, since there will be two middle modes.

Comparison with other methods

Interestingly, this definition of a default mode has some overlap with Jake Freivald's method of enumerating a mos's modes.