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:::: One more thing... the stuff I posted on your user page weighs in on this as well. In the end, I'm coming from the standpoint of how an interval functions relative to the Tonic. While you are right in pointing out that grammar of specific temperaments ought to be avoided, I'm forced to consider the fact that there's a general tendency for intervals to have specific functions depending on their size. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 11:33, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

::::: Sorry, but I meant talking about JI in the grammar of certain temperaments. As for the 16/15-problem, you do know that schisma is the difference between a major third and a dim fourth, right? So it is a dim second. Now adding a dim second to a chromatic semitone (aug unison) yields a diatonic semitone (minor second).

::::: I've read your Function Chart. Indeed, since 33/32 is 385/384 from 36/35 and 896/891 from 28/27, it can have ambiguous qualities. One of the chord progressions I've explored actually requires 245/243 be tempered out and effectively conflate them all. Nonetheless, 33/32 and 11/8 should function coherently. If 33/32 can be a subminor second in some circumstances, 11/8 can be a subdim fifth in the same way. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 12:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

:: Oh, and Flora, no offense taken. Sorry I didn't say so earlier... Perhaps once I get the musical function map finalized, we can look over it and see if you also think it is a good guide for organizing the interval names- you know, such as whether 33/32 is a prime or a second, or even both at once... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 19:57, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

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 :::: One more thing... the stuff I posted on your user page weighs in on this as well.  In the end, I'm coming from the standpoint of how an interval functions relative to the Tonic.  While you are right in pointing out that grammar of specific temperaments ought to be avoided, I'm forced to consider the fact that there's a general tendency for intervals to have specific functions depending on their size. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 11:33, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
+::::: Sorry, but I meant talking about JI in the grammar of certain temperaments. As for the 16/15-problem, you do know that schisma is the difference between a major third and a dim fourth, right? So it is a dim second. Now adding a dim second to a chromatic semitone (aug unison) yields a diatonic semitone (minor second).
+::::: I've read your Function Chart. Indeed, since 33/32 is 385/384 from 36/35 and 896/891 from 28/27, it can have ambiguous qualities. One of the chord progressions I've explored actually requires 245/243 be tempered out and effectively conflate them all. Nonetheless, 33/32 and 11/8 should function coherently. If 33/32 can be a subminor second in some circumstances, 11/8 can be a subdim fifth in the same way. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 12:54, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 :: Oh, and Flora, no offense taken.  Sorry I didn't say so earlier...  Perhaps once I get the musical function map finalized, we can look over it and see if you also think it is a good guide for organizing the interval names- you know, such as whether 33/32 is a prime or a second, or even both at once... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 19:57, 18 September 2020 (UTC)