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Relation to Carlos Alpha (copypasted from starling temperaments page)
Tunings: reduce ratios; +ratios of 15 and 21
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== Tunings ==
== Tunings ==
=== Tuning spectrum ===
=== Tuning spectrum ===
{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all left-4"
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! Edo<br>generator
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| 75.000
| 75.000
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| 12/11
| 11/6
| 75.319
| 75.319
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| 15/11
| 76.707
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|  
|  
| 8/7
| 7/4
| 77.058
| 77.058
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| 7/5
| 7/5
| 77.186
| 77.186
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| 5/4
| 5/4
| 77.263
| 77.263
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| [[31edo|2\31]]
| [[31edo|2\31]]
|  
|  
| 77.419
| 77.419
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| 11/9
| 11/9
| 77.508
| 77.508
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| 15/14
| 77.614
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| 15/8
| 77.733
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| 77.922
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| 4/3
| 3/2
| 77.995
| 77.995
| 5-odd-limit minimax
| 5-odd-limit minimax
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| 14/11
| 11/7
| 78.249
| 78.249
| 11-odd-limit minimax
| 11-odd-limit minimax
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| 10/9
| 9/5
| 78.277
| 78.277
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| 21/16
| 78.463
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| 11/8
| 11/8
| 78.760
| 78.760
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| 6/5
| 5/3
| 78.910
| 78.910
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| [[15edo|1\15]]
| [[15edo|1\15]]
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| 80.000
| 80.000
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| 21/11
| 80.537
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| 11/10
| 11/10
| 82.502
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Revision as of 11:54, 22 January 2025

Valentine is a regular temperament for the 7- and 11-limit, which tempers out 121/120, 126/125, and 176/175.

Valentine is very closely related to Carlos Alpha, the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in Beauty in the Beast suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. Mos scales of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.

See Starling temperaments #Valentine for more technical data.

Interval chain

Odd harmonics and subharmonics 1–21 are in bold.

# Cents* 11-limit ratios 13-limit extension
Valentino Lupercalia Dwynwen
0 0.00 1/1
1 77.88 21/20, 22/21, 25/24 26/25 27/26
2 155.76 12/11, 11/10, 35/32 13/12
3 233.64 8/7 15/13
4 311.52 6/5 13/11
5 389.41 5/4 26/21, 33/26
6 467.29 21/16 13/10
7 545.17 11/8, 15/11 18/13
8 623.05 10/7 56/39 13/9
9 700.93 3/2 52/35
10 778.81 11/7, 25/16 52/33
11 856.69 18/11 64/39 13/8
12 934.57 12/7 26/15
13 1012.46 9/5, 25/14
14 1090.34 15/8 13/7
15 1168.22 63/32, 96/49, 55/28,
108/55, 125/64
39/20
16 46.10 33/32, 36/35, 50/49 40/39 27/26 26/25
17 123.98 15/14, 27/25 14/13 13/12
18 201.86 9/8
19 279.74 33/28 13/11
20 357.62 27/22 16/13 39/32 26/21
21 435.51 9/7 13/10
22 513.39 27/20 35/26
23 591.27 45/32 39/28
24 669.15 72/49 52/35
25 747.03 54/35 20/13
26 824.91 45/28 21/13 13/8
27 902.79 27/16 22/13
28 980.67 99/56
29 1058.56 90/49 24/13 13/7
30 1136.44 27/14 25/13 39/20
31 14.32 81/80, 99/98

* in 11-limit POTE tuning

Chords

Tunings

Tuning spectrum

Edo
generator
Eigenmonzo
(unchanged-interval
)
Generator (¢) Comments
1\16 75.000
11/6 75.319
15/11 76.707
7/4 77.058
7/5 77.186
5/4 77.263
2\31 77.419
11/9 77.508
15/14 77.614
15/8 77.733
7/6 77.761 7-odd-limit minimax
9/7 77.861 9-odd-limit minimax
5\77 77.922
3/2 77.995 5-odd-limit minimax
11/7 78.249 11-odd-limit minimax
3\46 78.261
9/5 78.277
21/16 78.463
11/8 78.760
5/3 78.910
1\15 80.000
21/11 80.537
11/10 82.502
21/20 84.867