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= ARCHIVED WIKISPACES DISCUSSION BELOW =
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== ed7 ==
== Consolidate ed-degrees pages ==
I created a tuning 49ed7 and  a page for ed7 tunings http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/ed7 this page should be added here


- '''jauernig''' July 20, 2016, 11:16:42 PM UTC-0700
The degree is related to certain scales and not a concretely defined interval. The only widely recognized degree–ratio correlations are the octave (2/1), the fifth (3/2) and the fourth (4/3). All the others should be named by the exact ratio. For example, it is unclear what interval edX exactly splits. The ratio that makes the most logical sense would be either 81/32 or 5/2, yet in the article it is defined as 7/3. I suggest moving this page to ed7/3. Likewise, all the others except for edo, edt, and edf. Now I also suggest moving edf to ed3/2, since both ''fifth'' and ''fourth'' has the initial ''f'' and one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 23:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
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== Rename page ==
: I agree with everything except the final point. I think [[EDF|edf]] as equal divisions of the fifth is already well established (e.g. [[9edf]] redirects to [[Carlos Alpha]]), while equal divisions of the fourth (currently in "edIV") are very scarcely used. I understand your concern when you say "one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth", but I don't think people should even guess the meaning of an acronym; they will learn that 'f' stands for "fifth", which makes sense because it is the simplest interval between 3/2 and 4/3. For that matter, some people write ed2 even though edo is relatively unambiguous, so I'd rather make it clear what edf means for those who choose to use it. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 01:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
This page is a total disaster. It should probably be deleted. At the very least, renamed. WTF is "Equal"? That's not a thing.


- '''clumma''' March 31, 2016, 04:56:28 PM UTC-0700
:: Agree with this. edIV should just be ed4/3 though. The edX page is actually so ridiculous I thought it was satirizing the wiki. - [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 02:22, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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Can one of the editors of this page consider merging with EDO? Thanks.


- '''clumma''' March 31, 2016, 04:59:50 PM UTC-0700
::: Alright, let's do it. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 13:14, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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Well, it should not be merged with EDO. EDO is about equal divisions of the octave, while this page is about equal divisions of arbitrary period intervals.


It should at least contain the links to the various ED-overview pages, (EDO, EDT, EDF etc.). But the wording "equal-step tuning" is strange indeed.
== EDO tunings of some regular temperaments ==


- '''hstraub''' April 01, 2016, 09:43:59 AM UTC-0700
Optimal ET sequence → Equal tuning (redirect) → Equal-step tuning (here)
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== Tritaves ==
I'd like to see a description about the benefits of tuning the temperaments to Equal-step tunings, somewhere from there to here. I feel like there was something like that somewhere.--[[User:Dummy index|Dummy index]] ([[User talk:Dummy index|talk]]) 14:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Might I suggest we add a page for divisions of the tritave like there is the octave, or a table perhaps? There are some interesting ones I'll be adding to, and hopefully y'all as well.


- '''Kosmorsky''' August 15, 2011, 10:23:45 PM UTC-0700
== Bulk-editing the MMTM pages ==
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I agree;  5n-edos, 6n-edos and 7n-edos are interesting with their accurate approximations to 5/4, 6/5, 7/6 etc, and it would be a shame to not have a page to showcase them.  The 5n-edos and 7n-edos are especially interesting because they can form MOS scales similar to Blackwood and Whitewood.


- '''Sarzadoce''' August 15, 2011, 11:27:12 PM UTC-0700
A while back, Moremajorthanmajor made almost 500 pages for equal step tunings, which contained nothing except Infobox ET. Since then, we have marked them as stubs, but otherwise left them unchanged.
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Excuse me, I meant "edt" in place of "edo."  See?!  I've become too accustomed to the common nomenclature on the xenwiki, when there is a world to be explored beyond octaves.


- '''Sarzadoce''' August 15, 2011, 11:28:54 PM UTC-0700
I’m thinking that I would like add ED Intro, Harmonics in Equal and Interval Table to each of those pages.
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I think I will do it right away.


- '''hstraub''' August 15, 2011, 11:37:45 PM UTC-0700
It wouldn’t fix the problem - they’d all still be stubs - but it would at least be a bit of a band aid to make the pages a bit more presentable.
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Good idea!


I'm waiting for the EDT page to appear. :-)
If I did this, I would mark all the edits as minor, to make it easy to filter them out of recent changes.


- '''xenwolf''' August 16, 2011, 12:31:41 AM UTC-0700
Do you think this is a good idea, or would you rather I not do that?
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Done :-)


- '''hstraub''' August 16, 2011, 12:59:13 AM UTC-0700
--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 00:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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== moving edo stuff ==
== "Alpha-beta-gamma family of equal divisions" ==
I think we should move the edo stuff to the edo page. There is also a table ;-)
What is this about?


- '''xenwolf''' June 14, 2010, 11:55:11 PM UTC-0700
Is this an already established concept? If so it might be helpful to add a citation or link to previous authors discussing it.
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It would sure make sense to have the whole table at one place only. So we should either move the edo stuff to the edo page - or remove the edo page. The question may be raised whether the separate edo page is needed.


- '''hstraub''' June 15, 2010, 02:44:19 AM UTC-0700
If it's original research, it might be worth using the <nowiki>{{Idiosyncratic terms}}</nowiki> mbox. I'm also not sure if the main equal step tuning page is the best place for it either or whether it should have its own dedicated page and just be linked from the main equal step tuning page.
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I'd prefer to keep the edo page the equal page should evolve into an overview.


- '''xenwolf''' June 15, 2010, 02:47:37 AM UTC-0700
If it's already a well established concept used by multiple theorists though, then it seems reasonable to include it on this page.
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Alright - someone should do that then. Should I?


- '''hstraub''' August 13, 2010, 07:19:22 AM UTC-0700
--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 01:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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Good idea - I'd do the "review" then...


- '''xenwolf''' August 15, 2010, 04:45:34 AM UTC-0700
: Certainly idiosyncratic. Moreover I don't think they belong to this article. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 09:58, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
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== 1 to up to 4edo ==
I know only ONE piece in 1edo by Ligeti there is only 1 tone at the end thats not an A.
 
Is there anything else known in the range 1 to 4? ---  peu <small>Aug 1, 2008</small>
 
- '''xenwolf''' August 01, 2008, 12:08:58 AM UTC-0700
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It was in "Musica ricercata", maybe I find a link. ---  peu <small>Aug 1, 2008</small>
 
- '''xenwolf''' August 01, 2008, 12:13:00 AM UTC-0700
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Consolidate ed-degrees pages

The degree is related to certain scales and not a concretely defined interval. The only widely recognized degree–ratio correlations are the octave (2/1), the fifth (3/2) and the fourth (4/3). All the others should be named by the exact ratio. For example, it is unclear what interval edX exactly splits. The ratio that makes the most logical sense would be either 81/32 or 5/2, yet in the article it is defined as 7/3. I suggest moving this page to ed7/3. Likewise, all the others except for edo, edt, and edf. Now I also suggest moving edf to ed3/2, since both fifth and fourth has the initial f and one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth. FloraC (talk) 23:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree with everything except the final point. I think edf as equal divisions of the fifth is already well established (e.g. 9edf redirects to Carlos Alpha), while equal divisions of the fourth (currently in "edIV") are very scarcely used. I understand your concern when you say "one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth", but I don't think people should even guess the meaning of an acronym; they will learn that 'f' stands for "fifth", which makes sense because it is the simplest interval between 3/2 and 4/3. For that matter, some people write ed2 even though edo is relatively unambiguous, so I'd rather make it clear what edf means for those who choose to use it. --Fredg999 (talk) 01:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Agree with this. edIV should just be ed4/3 though. The edX page is actually so ridiculous I thought it was satirizing the wiki. - Sintel (talk) 02:22, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
Alright, let's do it. FloraC (talk) 13:14, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

EDO tunings of some regular temperaments

Optimal ET sequence → Equal tuning (redirect) → Equal-step tuning (here)

I'd like to see a description about the benefits of tuning the temperaments to Equal-step tunings, somewhere from there to here. I feel like there was something like that somewhere.--Dummy index (talk) 14:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Bulk-editing the MMTM pages

A while back, Moremajorthanmajor made almost 500 pages for equal step tunings, which contained nothing except Infobox ET. Since then, we have marked them as stubs, but otherwise left them unchanged.

I’m thinking that I would like add ED Intro, Harmonics in Equal and Interval Table to each of those pages.

It wouldn’t fix the problem - they’d all still be stubs - but it would at least be a bit of a band aid to make the pages a bit more presentable.

If I did this, I would mark all the edits as minor, to make it easy to filter them out of recent changes.

Do you think this is a good idea, or would you rather I not do that?

--BudjarnLambeth (talk) 00:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

"Alpha-beta-gamma family of equal divisions"

What is this about?

Is this an already established concept? If so it might be helpful to add a citation or link to previous authors discussing it.

If it's original research, it might be worth using the {{Idiosyncratic terms}} mbox. I'm also not sure if the main equal step tuning page is the best place for it either or whether it should have its own dedicated page and just be linked from the main equal step tuning page.

If it's already a well established concept used by multiple theorists though, then it seems reasonable to include it on this page.

--BudjarnLambeth (talk) 01:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

Certainly idiosyncratic. Moreover I don't think they belong to this article. FloraC (talk) 09:58, 28 October 2025 (UTC)