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This is a collection of some proposed [[temperament]]s for [[Arabic, Turkish, Persian music|Turkish maqam music]].  
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">==Yarman temperament==
[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a MOS of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 13-limit wedgie:


&lt;&lt;33 54 95 43 24 9 58 -46 -84 69 -87 -144 -208 -284 -76||
== Yarman temperament ==
{{See also| Quartonic family }}


which gives a temperament tempering out 325/324, 364/363, 6250/6237, 4000/3993, 1001/1000, 3025/3024 and 123201/123200. Note that another mapping for 7 is possible, and that in any event both can be used inconsistently. The generators 3/239 or 5/398 provide a little more accuracy than 159, at the expense of a slightly sharp fifth. However a Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible and perhaps accords better with Yarman's ideas.
[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a [[mos]] of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2\159, which suggests the 19-limit mappings:


==Karadeniz temperament==
* {{Mapping| 1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5 | 0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60 }}
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a "hemigarabaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:
* {{Mapping| 1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5 | 0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60 }}


&lt;&lt;2 -16 -28 5 40 -30 -50 1 56 -20 67 152 111 216 120||
The first mapping may be called 79 &amp; 159 in terms of [[patent val]]s, and the second 80 &amp; 159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently, and both temperaments are weak [[7-limit]] extensions of [[Quartonic family|quartonic temperament]]. A Pythagorean tuning, i.e. one with pure fifths, is also possible.


which in the 11-limit becomes &lt;&lt;2 -16 -28 5 -30 -50 1 -20 67 111||. It tempers out 3125/3087, 4000/3969, 243/242, 5120/5103, 225/224, and 3025/3024. Aside from 31/106, 74/253 can be recommended as a generator.
== Karadeniz temperament ==
{{See also| Schismatic family #Garibaldi }}


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K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41-note mos with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator.  
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It tempers out [[225/224]], [[243/242]], [[3025/3024]], [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]], and [[5120/5103]], and can also be called 41 &amp; 106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Ozan%20Yarman"&gt;Ozan Yarman&lt;/a&gt; has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a MOS of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 13-limit wedgie:&lt;br /&gt;
 
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which gives a temperament tempering out 325/324, 364/363, 6250/6237, 4000/3993, 1001/1000, 3025/3024 and 123201/123200. Note that another mapping for 7 is possible, and that in any event both can be used inconsistently. The generators 3/239 or 5/398 provide a little more accuracy than 159, at the expense of a slightly sharp fifth. However a Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible and perhaps accords better with Yarman's ideas.&lt;br /&gt;
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K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a &amp;quot;hemigarabaldi&amp;quot; type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:&lt;br /&gt;
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which in the 11-limit becomes &amp;lt;&amp;lt;2 -16 -28 5 -30 -50 1 -20 67 111||. It tempers out 3125/3087, 4000/3969, 243/242, 5120/5103, 225/224, and 3025/3024. Aside from 31/106, 74/253 can be recommended as a generator.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>

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This is a collection of some proposed temperaments for Turkish maqam music.

Yarman temperament

Ozan Yarman has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam music using a mos of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2\159, which suggests the 19-limit mappings:

  • [1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5], 0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60]]
  • [1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5], 0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60]]

The first mapping may be called 79 & 159 in terms of patent vals, and the second 80 & 159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently, and both temperaments are weak 7-limit extensions of quartonic temperament. A Pythagorean tuning, i.e. one with pure fifths, is also possible.

Karadeniz temperament

K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41-note mos with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator.

It tempers out 225/224, 243/242, 3025/3024, 3125/3087, 4000/3969, and 5120/5103, and can also be called 41 & 106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.