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The degree is related to certain scales and not a concretely defined interval. The only widely recognized degree–ratio correlations are the octave (2/1), the fifth (3/2) and the fourth (4/3). All the others should be named by the exact ratio. For example, it is unclear what interval edX exactly splits. The ratio that makes the most logical sense would be either 81/32 or 5/2, yet in the article it is defined as 7/3. I suggest moving this page to ed7/3. Likewise, all the others except for edo, edt, and edf. Now I also suggest moving edf to ed3/2, since both ''fifth'' and ''fourth'' has the initial ''f'' and one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 23:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

: I agree with everything except the final point. I think [[EDF|edf]] as equal divisions of the fifth is already well established (e.g. [[9edf]] redirects to [[Carlos Alpha]]), while equal divisions of the fourth (currently in [[edIV]]) are very scarcely used. I understand your concern when you say "one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth", but I don't think people should even guess the meaning of an acronym; they will learn that 'f' stands for "fifth", which makes sense because it is the simplest interval between 3/2 and 4/3. For that matter, some people write ed2 even though edo is relatively unambiguous, so I'd rather make it clear what edf means for those who choose to use it. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 01:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

: I agree with everything except the final point. I think [[EDF|edf]] as equal divisions of the fifth is already well established (e.g. [[9edf]] redirects to [[Carlos Alpha]]), while equal divisions of the fourth (currently in "edIV") are very scarcely used. I understand your concern when you say "one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth", but I don't think people should even guess the meaning of an acronym; they will learn that 'f' stands for "fifth", which makes sense because it is the simplest interval between 3/2 and 4/3. For that matter, some people write ed2 even though edo is relatively unambiguous, so I'd rather make it clear what edf means for those who choose to use it. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 01:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

:: Agree with this. edIV should just be ed4/3 though. The edX page is actually so ridiculous I thought it was satirizing the wiki. - [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 02:22, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

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--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 00:29, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

== "Alpha-beta-gamma family of equal divisions" ==

What is this about?

Is this an already established concept? If so it might be helpful to add a citation or link to previous authors discussing it.

If it's original research, it might be worth using the <nowiki>{{Idiosyncratic terms}}</nowiki> mbox. I'm also not sure if the main equal step tuning page is the best place for it either or whether it should have its own dedicated page and just be linked from the main equal step tuning page.

If it's already a well established concept used by multiple theorists though, then it seems reasonable to include it on this page.

--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 01:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

: Certainly idiosyncratic. Moreover I don't think they belong to this article. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 09:58, 28 October 2025 (UTC)

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 The degree is related to certain scales and not a concretely defined interval. The only widely recognized degree–ratio correlations are the octave (2/1), the fifth (3/2) and the fourth (4/3). All the others should be named by the exact ratio. For example, it is unclear what interval edX exactly splits. The ratio that makes the most logical sense would be either 81/32 or 5/2, yet in the article it is defined as 7/3. I suggest moving this page to ed7/3. Likewise, all the others except for edo, edt, and edf. Now I also suggest moving edf to ed3/2, since both ''fifth'' and ''fourth'' has the initial ''f'' and one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 23:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
-: I agree with everything except the final point. I think [[EDF|edf]] as equal divisions of the fifth is already well established (e.g. [[9edf]] redirects to [[Carlos Alpha]]), while equal divisions of the fourth (currently in [[edIV]]) are very scarcely used. I understand your concern when you say "one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth", but I don't think people should even guess the meaning of an acronym; they will learn that 'f' stands for "fifth", which makes sense because it is the simplest interval between 3/2 and 4/3. For that matter, some people write ed2 even though edo is relatively unambiguous, so I'd rather make it clear what edf means for those who choose to use it. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 01:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
+: I agree with everything except the final point. I think [[EDF|edf]] as equal divisions of the fifth is already well established (e.g. [[9edf]] redirects to [[Carlos Alpha]]), while equal divisions of the fourth (currently in "edIV") are very scarcely used. I understand your concern when you say "one cannot tell by the name if it's fifth or fourth", but I don't think people should even guess the meaning of an acronym; they will learn that 'f' stands for "fifth", which makes sense because it is the simplest interval between 3/2 and 4/3. For that matter, some people write ed2 even though edo is relatively unambiguous, so I'd rather make it clear what edf means for those who choose to use it. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 01:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
 :: Agree with this. edIV should just be ed4/3 though. The edX page is actually so ridiculous I thought it was satirizing the wiki. - [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 02:22, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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+== "Alpha-beta-gamma family of equal divisions" ==
+What is this about?
+Is this an already established concept? If so it might be helpful to add a citation or link to previous authors discussing it.
+If it's original research, it might be worth using the <nowiki>{{Idiosyncratic terms}}</nowiki> mbox. I'm also not sure if the main equal step tuning page is the best place for it either or whether it should have its own dedicated page and just be linked from the main equal step tuning page.
+If it's already a well established concept used by multiple theorists though, then it seems reasonable to include it on this page.
+--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 01:21, 28 October 2025 (UTC)
+: Certainly idiosyncratic. Moreover I don't think they belong to this article. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 09:58, 28 October 2025 (UTC)