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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Name = Pythagorean major third
| Name = Pythagorean major third, ditone
| Color name = Lw3, lawa 3rd
| Color name = Lw3, lawa 3rd
| Sound = jid_81_64_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_81_64_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
}}
}}
{{Wikipedia|Ditone}}
{{Wikipedia|Ditone}}
The '''Pythagorean major third''', '''81/64''', may be reached by stacking four perfect fifths ([[3/2]]), and reducing by two [[octave]]s. In contrast to the more typical [[5/4]]- with which it is conflated in [[meantone]]- this interval is a bit more dissonant when not bridged by a stack of 3/2 intervals within in a chord, with a [[harmonic entropy]] level somewhere between that of [[9/8]] and that of [[8/7]]. Thus, some would argue that it is functionally an imperfect dissonance.
The '''Pythagorean major third''', '''81/64''' may be reached by stacking four perfect fifths ([[3/2]]), and reducing by two [[octave]]s. It is also known as the '''ditone''', as it may be reached by stacking two (Pythagorean whole) [[tone]]s ([[9/8]]). In contrast to the more typical [[5/4]]—with which it is conflated in [[meantone]]—this interval is a bit more discordant on its own, with a [[harmonic entropy]] level somewhere between that of [[9/8]] and that of [[8/7]]. Thus, some would argue that it is functionally an imperfect dissonance.


== See also ==
== See also ==
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[[Category:Third]]
[[Category:Third]]
[[Category:Major third]]
[[Category:Major third]]
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Latest revision as of 10:56, 27 December 2025

Interval information
Ratio 81/64
Factorization 2-6 × 34
Monzo [-6 4
Size in cents 407.82¢
Names Pythagorean major third,
ditone
Color name Lw3, lawa 3rd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M3} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 12.3399
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 12.6797
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 24

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The Pythagorean major third, 81/64 may be reached by stacking four perfect fifths (3/2), and reducing by two octaves. It is also known as the ditone, as it may be reached by stacking two (Pythagorean whole) tones (9/8). In contrast to the more typical 5/4—with which it is conflated in meantone—this interval is a bit more discordant on its own, with a harmonic entropy level somewhere between that of 9/8 and that of 8/7. Thus, some would argue that it is functionally an imperfect dissonance.

See also