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Leave me a message! ("Add topic" is the convenient thing to use)

== Different kinds of redirects ==

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::In the <code>wikispaces</code> era, there were soft redirects and hard redirects, but not regular redirects. After migration to MediaWiki era, the FREEZE engine turned hard redirects to regular redirects, which didn't exist in <code>wikispaces</code>. The MediaWiki hard redirect, which exploits the way interlanguage travel works, does not have a backwards link and is safe to double–redirect (like <code>wikispaces</code>) but is not limited to admins and can link to a section (unlike <code>wikispaces</code>). [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 07:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

::Compare [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects] before migration and [[Wiki help#Redirects]] after migration. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 07:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

::[[Modus]] and [[JI]] are now hard redirects as you intended. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 07:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

:::I didn't want that though, since I hadn't heard of them. By "hard" I just meant "not soft". [[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 07:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

== Edt impressions ==

[[Keenan's EDO impressions]] is a nice page, and I'm curious what are your opinions on [[edt]]s. Have you tried [[4edt]], [[5edt]] and/or [[6edt]], which have some consonances while being more macrotonal than [[5edo]]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 17:33, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

:They sound crazy to me because I'm a simple man and can't really internalize music without octaves (although I could talk about their theory all day). It's not for lack of trying. [[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 03:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== EDO Impressions ==

Hello there, I know you've been around before, but I've never had any reason to interact with you before, but seeing that you were online, I figured I'd give it a shot. I joined this site in August, and I've been doing my share of work- trying to explore the 11-limit, naming commas, working with 159edo and stuff like that. Like you, I don't think I can really internalize music without octaves, and I ended up making [[User:Aura/Aura's EDO Impressions|my own EDO impressions page]]... I hope you like what you see from my work- even though it's admittedly incomplete... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

== When using a bot ==

... it's much better to do the work in an associated bot account. When doing this as a normal user, [[Special:RecentChanges]] get cluttered. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:It's not actually a bot, but a UI-based tool that allows me to do category moves as one action. I'll try creating a "bot" account so they can be filtered though, let me see... —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 22:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

::Okay how's this? Seems like they are not showing up on Recent Changes anymore, and this also seems safer because the second account doesn't have admin privileges. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 22:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

::: Much better now! BTW: Are you planning to write an article about [[41503/41472]]? --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

::::No, I created that for somebody on Facebook who was trying to create it and running into technical errors. Seems you can't use the visual editor on pages whose title contains a slash. But the source editor works fine for me so I don't know what was going on for that person. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 22:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

How exactly did you (or [[User:Keenan Pepper category edits]]) enable [[Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]]? --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

:I typed something into the Chrome developer console to load an external script. This means I have to redo it every time I load a (category) page that I want to use it on - if I felt like making it even easier I'd use something like Tampermonkey to load it automatically. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 17:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

== Keenanisma ==

Hey, Keenan, who was the Keenanisma named for, you or Dave Keenan? Sorry, I have to ask... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:27, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:Pretty sure that was Dave Keenan. In general stuff named "Keenan" is him whereas stuff named "Pepper" (e.g. [[Peppermint-24]], [[Pepperoni]]) is me. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:: Good to know... Me? I would rather not name commas after myself- I mean, I named the [[quartisma]], the [[nexuma|nexus comma]], the [[symbiosma|symbiotic comma]], the [[Alpharabian comma]] and the [[Betarabian comma]], and the only one I really named after someone was the Alpharabian comma, with the name "Betarabian" being a derivative of "Alpharabian". -[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:::I haven't named anything after myself... the few things named after me were named by other people. "Alpharabian" is named after Al-Farabi? —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:::: Yes. Read the linked article to see why I gave it that name. Oh, and I should mention that I had [[User:CritDeathX|Sam]]'s help for one of the names of the nexus comma, so there's that. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

== Composition ==

I'm curious, what kinds of microtonal songs to you like to write? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:If you wanna just shoot the shit I suggest a more real-time medium such as google hangout chat. My username is "keenanpepper". I tend to assume wiki messages are about the wiki. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:: Are you on reddit by chance? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

:::Yes, also keenanpepper. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

::::My username on reddit is [https://www.reddit.com/user/DaffodilAura218 DaffodilAura218]- my Xbox username which is the source of my name on here. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 00:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

::::Perhaps we can talk about music and stuff there if you message me... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 00:03, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

== Epic Table 2 ==

Do you see any value left in [[Epic Table 2]]? I have a strong feeling that it doesn't really fit in the wiki. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 18:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

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+Leave me a message! ("Add topic" is the convenient thing to use)
+== Different kinds of redirects ==
 Regular redirect: <pre>#REDIRECT [[Page]]</pre><br>
 Hard redirect: <pre>#REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]</pre>
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 ::In the <code>wikispaces</code> era, there were soft redirects and hard redirects, but not regular redirects. After migration to MediaWiki era, the FREEZE engine turned hard redirects to regular redirects, which didn't exist in <code>wikispaces</code>. The MediaWiki hard redirect, which exploits the way interlanguage travel works, does not have a backwards link and is safe to double–redirect (like <code>wikispaces</code>) but is not limited to admins and can link to a section (unlike <code>wikispaces</code>). [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 07:22, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 ::Compare [http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help#x-Using%20links-Redirects] before migration and [[Wiki help#Redirects]] after migration. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 07:24, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
+::[[Modus]] and [[JI]] are now hard redirects as you intended. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 07:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
+:::I didn't want that though, since I hadn't heard of them. By "hard" I just meant "not soft". [[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 07:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
+== Edt impressions ==
+[[Keenan's EDO impressions]] is a nice page, and I'm curious what are your opinions on [[edt]]s. Have you tried [[4edt]], [[5edt]] and/or [[6edt]], which have some consonances while being more macrotonal than [[5edo]]? [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 17:33, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
+:They sound crazy to me because I'm a simple man and can't really internalize music without octaves (although I could talk about their theory all day). It's not for lack of trying. [[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 03:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
+== EDO Impressions ==
+Hello there, I know you've been around before, but I've never had any reason to interact with you before, but seeing that you were online, I figured I'd give it a shot.  I joined this site in August, and I've been doing my share of work- trying to explore the 11-limit, naming commas, working with 159edo and stuff like that.  Like you, I don't think I can really internalize music without octaves, and I ended up making [[User:Aura/Aura's EDO Impressions|my own EDO impressions page]]...  I hope you like what you see from my work- even though it's admittedly incomplete... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:47, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
+== When using a bot ==
+... it's much better to do the work in an associated bot account. When doing this as a normal user, [[Special:RecentChanges]] get cluttered. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:29, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:It's not actually a bot, but a UI-based tool that allows me to do category moves as one action. I'll try creating a "bot" account so they can be filtered though, let me see... —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 22:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+::Okay how's this? Seems like they are not showing up on Recent Changes anymore, and this also seems safer because the second account doesn't have admin privileges. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 22:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+::: Much better now! BTW: Are you planning to write an article about [[41503/41472]]? --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:58, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+::::No, I created that for somebody on Facebook who was trying to create it and running into technical errors. Seems you can't use the visual editor on pages whose title contains a slash. But the source editor works fine for me so I don't know what was going on for that person. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 22:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+How exactly did you (or [[User:Keenan Pepper category edits]]) enable [[Help:Cat-a-lot|Cat-a-lot]]? --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 22:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
+:I typed something into the Chrome developer console to load an external script. This means I have to redo it every time I load a (category) page that I want to use it on - if I felt like making it even easier I'd use something like Tampermonkey to load it automatically. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 17:33, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
+== Keenanisma ==
+Hey, Keenan, who was the Keenanisma named for, you or Dave Keenan?  Sorry, I have to ask... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:27, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:Pretty sure that was Dave Keenan. In general stuff named "Keenan" is him whereas stuff named "Pepper" (e.g. [[Peppermint-24]], [[Pepperoni]]) is me. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:: Good to know...  Me? I would rather not name commas after myself- I mean, I named the [[quartisma]], the [[nexuma|nexus comma]], the [[symbiosma|symbiotic comma]], the [[Alpharabian comma]] and the [[Betarabian comma]], and the only one I really named after someone was the Alpharabian comma, with the name "Betarabian" being a derivative of "Alpharabian". -[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:31, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:::I haven't named anything after myself... the few things named after me were named by other people. "Alpharabian" is named after Al-Farabi? —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:::: Yes.  Read the linked article to see why I gave it that name.  Oh, and I should mention that I had [[User:CritDeathX|Sam]]'s help for one of the names of the nexus comma, so there's that. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:35, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+== Composition ==
+I'm curious, what kinds of microtonal songs to you like to write? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:53, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:If you wanna just shoot the shit I suggest a more real-time medium such as google hangout chat. My username is "keenanpepper". I tend to assume wiki messages are about the wiki. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:57, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:: Are you on reddit by chance? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+:::Yes, also keenanpepper. —[[User:Keenan Pepper|Keenan Pepper]] ([[User talk:Keenan Pepper|talk]]) 23:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
+::::My username on reddit is [https://www.reddit.com/user/DaffodilAura218 DaffodilAura218]- my Xbox username which is the source of my name on here. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 00:02, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
+::::Perhaps we can talk about music and stuff there if you message me... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 00:03, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
+== Epic Table 2 ==
+Do you see any value left in [[Epic Table 2]]? I have a strong feeling that it doesn't really fit in the wiki. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 18:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)