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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Ratio = 6115295232/6103515625
| Ratio = 6115295232/6103515625
| Name = vishnuzma, semisuper comma
| Name = vishnu comma, vishnuzma, semisuper comma
| Color name = sg<sup>14</sup>4, sasepbigu 4th
| Color name = sg<sup>14</sup>4, sasepbigu 4th
| Comma = yes
| Comma = yes
}}
}}
The '''vishnuzma''' or '''semisuper comma''' ([[ratio]]: 6115295232/6103515625, [[monzo]]: {{monzo| 23 6 -14 }}) of 3.338 [[cent]]s, is the amount by which seven [[25/24|classical chromatic semitones]] fall short of a just perfect fourth and also by which fourteen [[5/4|classical major thirds]] miss the [[729/512|pythagorean augmented fourth]]. It can be written as <math>\left(\frac{4}{3}\right)/\left(\frac{25}{24}\right)^{7}</math>.
The '''vishnu comma''', '''vishnuzma''' or '''semisuper comma''' ([[ratio]]: 6 115 295 232 / 6 103 515 625, [[monzo]]: {{monzo| 23 6 -14 }}), is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[5-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 3.34 [[cent]]s. It is the amount by which a stack of seven [[25/24|classical chromatic semitones]] falls short of a [[4/3|just perfect fourth]], in other words the interval (4/3)/(25/24)<sup>7</sup>.  Equivalently, it is the amount by which a stack of fourteen [[5/4|classical major thirds]] misses the [[729/512|Pythagorean augmented fourth]].  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma leads to temperaments of the [[vishnuzmic family]].
[[Tempering out]] this comma leads to the 5-limit [[vishnu]] temperament.
 
See [[Vishnu family]] for the [[family]] of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.


== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==
This comma was named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2002 as the ''semisuper comma''<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_5025.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''5-limit comma names'']</ref>. It is yet to be found out how and why the later name ''vishnuzma'' was added.  
This comma was first named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2001 in terms of the corresponding temperament, ''semisuper'', for one possible generator of the temperament was a "semisuper fourth"<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_2121.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Shismic & co'']</ref>. ''Semisuper comma'' appeared shortly after<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_5025.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''5-limit comma names'']</ref>. It is not clear yet how and why the later names ''vishnu'' (for the temperament) and ''vishnuzma'' (for the comma) were added.  


== Notes ==
== References ==


[[Category:Vishnuzmic]]
[[Category:Vishnu]]
[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]

Latest revision as of 06:36, 18 June 2026

Interval information
Ratio 6115295232/6103515625
Factorization 223 × 36 × 5-14
Monzo [23 6 -14
Size in cents 3.338011¢
Names vishnu comma,
vishnuzma,
semisuper comma
Color name sg144, sasepbigu 4th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{7d4}_{5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 65.0168
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 65.0196
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 134
Comma size unnoticeable
Open this interval in xen-calc

The vishnu comma, vishnuzma or semisuper comma (ratio: 6 115 295 232 / 6 103 515 625, monzo: [23 6 -14), is an unnoticeable 5-limit comma measuring about 3.34 cents. It is the amount by which a stack of seven classical chromatic semitones falls short of a just perfect fourth, in other words the interval (4/3)/(25/24)7. Equivalently, it is the amount by which a stack of fourteen classical major thirds misses the Pythagorean augmented fourth.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma leads to the 5-limit vishnu temperament.

See Vishnu family for the family of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.

Etymology

This comma was first named by Gene Ward Smith in 2001 in terms of the corresponding temperament, semisuper, for one possible generator of the temperament was a "semisuper fourth"[1]. Semisuper comma appeared shortly after[2]. It is not clear yet how and why the later names vishnu (for the temperament) and vishnuzma (for the comma) were added.

References