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| Subgroups = 5.7.11
| Subgroups = 5.7.11
| Comma basis = [[831875/823543]]
| Comma basis = [[831875/823543]]
| Edo join 1 = 43ed5 | Edo join 2 = 14ed5
| Edo join 1 = c14 | Edo join 2 = c43
| Mapping = 1; 3 7
| Mapping = 1; 3 7
| Generators = 55/49
| Generators = 55/49
| Generators tuning = 194.820
| Generators tuning = 194.8
| Optimization method = CWE
| Optimization method = CWE
| MOS scales = [[1L 12s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 12s<5/1>]], [[1L 13s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 13s<5/1>]], [[14L 1s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 1s<5/1>]], [[14L 15s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 15s<5/1>]]
| MOS scales = [[1L 12s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 12s<5/1>]], [[1L 13s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 13s<5/1>]], [[14L 1s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 1s<5/1>]], [[14L 15s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 15s<5/1>]]
| Color name =  
| Odd limit 1 = ? | Mistuning 1 = ? | Complexity 1 = ?
}}
}}


'''Pentadacus''' is a [[nonoctave]] [[regular temperament]] in the 5.7.11 [[subgroup]] which tempers out the comma [[831875/823543]]. It is even more exotic than [[Bohlen-Pierce]], lacking both [[2/1]] and [[3/1]], and typically it would be used with an [[equave]] of [[5/1]], also known as the pentave. It is generated by a [[meantone]]-esque small whole tone interval that represents [[54/49]]. Stacking 3 of these tones gives [[7/5]] and 7 of them give [[11/5]]. Pentadacus has both low [[complexity]] (especially by the standards of the 5/1-equivalent world, where scales have lots of notes) and low [[error]] if tuned correctly, providing an [[efficiency|efficient]] traversal of the 5.7.11 subgroup. It was first discovered and named by [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] in 2026.
'''Pentadacus''' is a [[nonoctave]] [[regular temperament]] in the 5.7.11 [[subgroup]] which tempers out the comma [[831875/823543]]. It is even more exotic than [[Bohlen-Pierce]], lacking both [[2/1]] and [[3/1]], and typically it would be used with an [[equave]] of [[5/1]], also known as the pentave. It is generated by a [[meantone]]-esque small whole tone interval that represents [[54/49]]. Stacking 3 of these tones gives [[7/5]] and 7 of them give [[11/5]]. Properly-tuned pentadacus generates the [[5/1]]-equivalent [[mos scales]] [[1L 1s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 1s<5/1>]], [[1L 2s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 2s<5/1>]], etc. until ending the monolarge mos chain at [[1L 13s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 13s<5/1>]], followed by [[14L 1s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 1s<5/1>]], [[14L 15s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 15s<5/1>]]. Pentadacus has both low [[complexity]] (especially by the standards of the 5/1-equivalent world, where scales have lots of notes) and low [[error]] if tuned correctly, providing an [[efficiency|efficient]] traversal of the 5.7.11 subgroup. It was first discovered and named by [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] in 2026.


[[14ed5]] is an inaccurate but important tuning of Pentadacus, because in 14ed5, the whole tone generator corresponds to a single step of 14ed5, although the whole tone is bigger than usual being around [[9/8]]-sized, causing the approximations of 7/5 and 11/5 to be bad. Basically, pentadacus can be thought of as a compressed 14ed5, at least until you hit [[5/1]]. 14ed5 is also close to [[6edo]], the familiar whole-tone scale with octaves, and 6 generators in pentadacus can sound like a tempered octave but it’s usually quite inaccurate and dissonant. Properly-tuned Pentadacus generates the [[5/1]]-equivalent [[MOS scales]] [[1L 1s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 1s<5/1>]], [[1L 2s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 2s<5/1>]], etc. until ending the monolarge MOS chain at [[1L 13s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 13s<5/1>]], followed by [[14L 1s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 1s<5/1>]], [[14L 15s (5/1-equivalent)|14L 15s<5/1>]]. After this it branches into
Pentadacus can be thought of as a compressed [[14ed5]] until you hit [[5/1]], as is best exemplified by the [[1L 13s (5/1-equivalent)|1L 13s<5/1>]] Pentadacus[14] mos. Because of this, many good smaller pentadacus tunings are of the form (14''n'' + 1)ed5 such as [[29ed5]], [[43ed5]], and [[57ed5]]. In this respect, it is similar to a [[cluster temperament]], but does not seem to exactly meet the definition of a cluster temperament. 14ed5 is also close to [[6edo]], the familiar whole-tone scale with octaves, so pentadacus is very alien (being a step above even tritave-equivalent temperaments) but can lapse into sounding like the familiar whole-tone scale at times. 6 generators in pentadacus can sound a bit like a [[stretched and compressed tuning|compressed octave]] but it is usually inaccurate unless you are using a very sharp tuning like 14ed5.
Pentadacus is connected to the octave-repeating [[didacus]] temperament as both have a small whole tone generator for which 3 stack to 7/5, and [[undecimal didacus]] can actually be viewed not only as an extension of didacus to include the 11th harmonic, but also an extension of pentadacus to include octaves.


Pentadacus is connected to the octave-repeating [[didacus]] temperament as both have a small whole tone generator for which 3 stack to 7/5, and [[didacus|undecimal didacus]] can actually be viewed not only as an extension of didacus to include the 11th harmonic, but also an extension of pentadacus to include octaves. Pentadacus's connection to [[14ed5]] (which is effectively 6edo with a just 5/1) is a lot like didacus's connection to [[6edo]].


== Interval chain ==
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{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2"
! # !! Cents* !! Approximate ratios
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| 0 || 0.0 || '''1/1'''
|}
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