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'''513/512''', the '''undevicesimal comma''', '''undevicesimal schisma''' or '''Boethius' comma''', is an [[Unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[19-limit]] (also 2.3.19 [[subgroup]]) comma. It is the amount by which [[19/16]] exceeds the [[32/27|Pythagorean minor third (32/27)]]. It is significant in [[Functional Just System]] and [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby undevicesimal interval.
'''513/512''', the '''undevicesimal comma''', '''undevicesimal schisma''' or '''Boethius' comma''', is an [[Unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[19-limit]] (also 2.3.19 [[subgroup]]) comma. It is the amount by which [[19/16]] exceeds the [[32/27|Pythagorean minor third (32/27)]].  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
By tempering out this comma in the 19-limit is defined the '''boethius temperament''', or in the 2.3.19 subgroup, the '''boethian temperament'''. Both enables the [[boethius chords]].  
: ''"Boethius" redirects here. For the medieval Roman platonist, see [[Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius]].''
 
By tempering out this comma in the 19-limit is defined the '''boethius temperament''', or in the 2.3.19 subgroup, the '''boethian temperament'''. Both enables the [[boethius chords]]. See [[No-fives subgroup temperaments #Boethian]].
 
== Notation ==
This comma is significant in [[Functional Just System]] and [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby undevicesimal interval.
 
=== Sagittal notation ===
In the [[Sagittal]] system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | )| }} and is called the '''19 schisma''', or '''19s''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 19/1 (equiv 19/16), as for example in D-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | )| }}. The downward version is called '''1/19s''' or '''19s down''' and is represented by {{sagittal| )! }}.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]


[[Category:Boethius]]
[[Category:Boethius]]
[[Category:Commas named after their interval size]]
[[Category:Commas named after polymaths]]

Latest revision as of 12:03, 17 April 2025

Interval information
Ratio 513/512
Subgroup monzo 2.3.19 [-9 3 1
Size in cents 3.378019¢
Names undevicesimal comma,
undevicesimal schisma,
Boethius' comma
Color name L19o1, lano 1sn,
Lano comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P1}^{19} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney height (log2 nd) 18.0028
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 18.0056
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 46
Comma size unnoticeable
Open this interval in xen-calc

513/512, the undevicesimal comma, undevicesimal schisma or Boethius' comma, is an unnoticeable 19-limit (also 2.3.19 subgroup) comma. It is the amount by which 19/16 exceeds the Pythagorean minor third (32/27).

Temperaments

"Boethius" redirects here. For the medieval Roman platonist, see Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius.

By tempering out this comma in the 19-limit is defined the boethius temperament, or in the 2.3.19 subgroup, the boethian temperament. Both enables the boethius chords. See No-fives subgroup temperaments #Boethian.

Notation

This comma is significant in Functional Just System and Helmholtz-Ellis notation as the formal comma to translate a Pythagorean interval to a nearby undevicesimal interval.

Sagittal notation

In the Sagittal system, this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal ⁠ ⁠ and is called the 19 schisma, or 19s for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 19/1 (equiv 19/16), as for example in D-F⁠ ⁠⁠ ⁠. The downward version is called 1/19s or 19s down and is represented by ⁠ ⁠.

See also