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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Ratio = 27/25
| Name = large limma, acute minor second
| Monzo = 0 3 -2
| Cents = 133.23757
| Name = large limma
| Color name = gg2, gugu 2nd
| Color name = gg2, gugu 2nd
| FJS name = m2<sub>25</sub>
| Sound = jid_27_25_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_27_25_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Comma = yes
}}
}}


'''27/25''', called the '''large limma''' or '''acute minor second''', at 133.238 [[cent]]s, has the remarkable property of almost exactly equaling a single step of [[9edo]], a step of which is 133 1/3 cents. Hence, nine large limmas fall just short of an octave by the [[ennealimma]] which is {{monzo| 1 -27 18 }}, a comma of less than a cent in size. If all of that were not enough, two large limmas are almost exactly a [[7/6|subminor third]], since (7/6)/(27/25)<sup>2</sup> = 4375/4374. Turning from microtempering to exotempering, 27/25 can be [[tempering out|tempered out]], leading to the [[bug family]] of temperaments, rather than the [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Ennealimmal|ennealimmal temperament]] which tempering out both the ennealimma and [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, leads to.
'''27/25''', called the '''large limma''' or '''acute minor second''', at 133.238 [[cent]]s is a large semitone interval which is a [[81/80|syntonic comma]] above the 5-limit minor second [[16/15]], or 2 syntonic commas above the Pythagorean minor second [[256/243]]. It has the remarkable property of almost exactly equaling a single step of [[9edo]], a step of which is 133 1/3 cents. Hence, nine large limmas fall just short of an octave by the [[ennealimma]] which is {{monzo| 1 -27 18 }}, a comma of less than a cent in size. If all of that were not enough, two large limmas are almost exactly a [[7/6|subminor third]], since (7/6)/(27/25)<sup>2</sup> = [[4375/4374]]. Tempering out both the ennealimma and [[4375/4374]], the ragisma, leads to the [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Ennealimmal|ennealimmal temperament]]. Ennealimmal is an extremely accurate temperament, while still being of a somewhat manageable complexity.  Turning from microtempering to exotempering, 27/25 can be [[tempering out|tempered out]], leading to the [[bug family]] of temperaments.
 
Coincidentally, 27/25 is exactly three octaves below the ratio between 432hz and 50hz, common frequencies in tuning and AC electrical power respectively.


== See also ==
== See also ==
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* [[Large comma]]
* [[Large comma]]


[[Category:5-limit]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Semitone]]
[[Category:Semitone]]
[[Category:Limma]]
[[Category:Limma]]
[[Category:Large comma]]
[[Category:9edo]]
[[Category:9edo]]
[[Category:Bug]]
[[Category:Bug]]
[[Category:Pages with internal sound examples]]
[[Category:Neutral second]]
[[Category:Supraminor second]]
[[Category:Commas named after their interval size]]

Latest revision as of 23:48, 2 April 2025

Interval information
Ratio 27/25
Factorization 33 × 5-2
Monzo [0 3 -2
Size in cents 133.2376¢
Names large limma,
acute minor second
Color name gg2, gugu 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m2}_{5,5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 9.39874
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 9.50978
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 19
Comma size large
S-expressions S62 × S7,
S3 / S5

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27/25, called the large limma or acute minor second, at 133.238 cents is a large semitone interval which is a syntonic comma above the 5-limit minor second 16/15, or 2 syntonic commas above the Pythagorean minor second 256/243. It has the remarkable property of almost exactly equaling a single step of 9edo, a step of which is 133 1/3 cents. Hence, nine large limmas fall just short of an octave by the ennealimma which is [1 -27 18, a comma of less than a cent in size. If all of that were not enough, two large limmas are almost exactly a subminor third, since (7/6)/(27/25)2 = 4375/4374. Tempering out both the ennealimma and 4375/4374, the ragisma, leads to the ennealimmal temperament. Ennealimmal is an extremely accurate temperament, while still being of a somewhat manageable complexity. Turning from microtempering to exotempering, 27/25 can be tempered out, leading to the bug family of temperaments.

See also