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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Icon =
| Name = diatismic whole tone
| Ratio = 17/15
| Monzo = 0 -1 -1 0 0 0 1
| Cents = 216.68669
| Name = septendecimal whole tone
| Color name = 17og3, sogu 3rd
| Color name = 17og3, sogu 3rd
| Sound = jid_17_15_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_17_15_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
}}
}}


In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''17/15''' is the '''septendecimal whole tone''' measuring about 216.. It is the [[mediant]] between [[9/8]] and [[8/7]], as it is (9+8)/(8+7). It is found in the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]] between the 17th and 15th overtones. [[11edo]]'s second degree, measuring approximately 218.2¢, is close in size to 17/15 -- indeed, the 11edo system has excellent approximations of the 15th and 17th harmonics, and so this harmonic function is plausible in 11edo.
In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''17/15''' is the '''diatismic whole tone''' measuring about 216.7{{cent}}. It exceeds the [[9/8|Pythagorean whole tone (9/8)]] by a [[136/135|diatisma (136/135)]], hence the name. It is the [[mediant]] of 9/8 and [[8/7]], as it is (9 + 8)/(8 + 7). It is found in the [[harmonic series]] between the 17th and 15th [[harmonic]]s. [[11edo]]'s second degree, measuring approximately 218.2¢, is close in size to 17/15 indeed, the 11edo system has excellent approximations of the 15th and 17th harmonics, and so this harmonic function is plausible in 11edo.


√2/(17/15) is three cents flat of a 5/4 major third, and this or 17/15 itself can be used for a tuning for wizard and its various relatives (lizard, gizzard, etc.).
√2/(17/15) is three cents flat of a 5/4 major third, and this or 17/15 itself can be used for a tuning for [[wizard]] and its various relatives (lizard, gizzard, etc.).


== See also ==
== See also ==
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* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


[[Category:17-limit]]
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Whole tone]]
[[Category:Whole tone]]
[[Category:Pages with internal sound examples]]
[[Category:Diatismic]]

Latest revision as of 13:44, 1 June 2024

Interval information
Ratio 17/15
Factorization 3-1 × 5-1 × 17
Monzo [0 -1 -1 0 0 0 1
Size in cents 216.6867¢
Name diatismic whole tone
Color name 17og3, sogu 3rd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d3}^{17}_{5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 7.99435
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 8.17493
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 25

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In 17-limit just intonation, 17/15 is the diatismic whole tone measuring about 216.7 ¢. It exceeds the Pythagorean whole tone (9/8) by a diatisma (136/135), hence the name. It is the mediant of 9/8 and 8/7, as it is (9 + 8)/(8 + 7). It is found in the harmonic series between the 17th and 15th harmonics. 11edo's second degree, measuring approximately 218.2¢, is close in size to 17/15 – indeed, the 11edo system has excellent approximations of the 15th and 17th harmonics, and so this harmonic function is plausible in 11edo.

√2/(17/15) is three cents flat of a 5/4 major third, and this or 17/15 itself can be used for a tuning for wizard and its various relatives (lizard, gizzard, etc.).

See also