Talk:Batch 89 temperaments

Normalize subgroup bases?

> 2.6.66.89

That's equivalent to 2.3.11.89.

> 2.20.55.89

That's equivalent to 2.5.11.89.

> 2.12.62.89

That's equivalent to 2.3.31.89

> 2.18.72.89

That's equivalent to 2.9+.9-.89 (with a dual harmonic 9). FloraC (talk) 18:15, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I have added both the raw and normalised bases beneath each temperament’s heading, so that people can view both.

Later, I will go through and update all the tables and other information to use the normalised bases because that will be simpler and easier to follow. --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 22:23, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. So besides that I did a review to the comma names you added and find some comma names not corresponding exactly to the temperament names. I'm afraid it can confuse future users.

Floor comma 979/972: the floor temperament tempers out 89/88, 243/242, and their linear combinations, so tempering out 979/972 alone is a distinct temperament. Floorsma 7921/7776: again tempering out this alone is another distinct temperament.

Teefs comma 1000/979: the teefs temperament tempers out 89/88, 1000/979, and their linear combinations, so tempering out 1000/979 alone doesn't give you the teefs temperament. Teefisma 8000/7921: this looks alright since the corresponding minimum subgroup temperament may be called teefic and the corresponding full-prime-limit temperament may be called teefismic.

Lylla comma 2883/2848: the lylla temperament tempers out 2883/2848, 7936/7921, and their linear combinations, so tempering out 2883/2848 alone doesn't give you the lylla temperament. Lyllisma 7936/7921: this looks alright since the corresponding minimum subgroup temperament may be called lyllic and the corresponding full-prime-limit temperament may be called lyllismic.

Rocket comma 729/712: the rocket temperament is defined in the 2.9+.9-.89 subgroup, which is by all means different from its minimum subgroup 2.3.89. I'm afraid a temperament defined in a nontrivially nonstandard subgroup like dual-9 shouldn't be used to derive comma names.

Sky comma 89/88: alright.

Shall we fix them by changing some comma names? Such as by adding prefixes or suffixes. FloraC (talk) 08:19, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I’m happy for you to change the comma names by adding prefixes or suffixes. Thank you for helping sort this out :) --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 12:15, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

The question is then what names should be given to them. Let's see if I can get more ppl involved. FloraC (talk) 13:12, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. I’m excited to see what names people come up with :) --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 13:43, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

I just came up with the following names, what do you think?:

Floor
7921:7776 Attic comma
979:972 Basement comma
243:242 (already named)

Teefs
1000:979 Canine comma
8000:7921 Incisor comma
704969:704000 Molar comma

Lylla
2883:2848 Lilac comma
7936:7921 Lily comma
8277:8192 Lime comma
714984:704969 Lightyear comma

Rocket
729:712 Oxidizer comma

--BudjarnLambeth (talk) 03:45, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Nice. That resolves all the naming conflicts. FloraC (talk) 04:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you :) I have updated the comma wiki pages with the new names. Thanks for all your help with these pages :) --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 09:18, 16 June 2023 (UTC)