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Soft redirects and smart redirects

Hi Piotr - I like the soft and hard redirects. What is a "smart" redirect though? In your article you describe them as the same, but you have created separate "Soft redirects" and "Smart redirects" categories as though they are different. Are they the same thing or two different things? Thanks for helping to organize all this! Mike Battaglia (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC) Mike Battaglia (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

I did not describe them, it came from http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/wiki+help. PiotrGrochowski (talk) 15:33, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
OK. In case it's helpful to anyone, here is a link to MediaWiki's redirects - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Redirects. I think the thing you are calling "regular" and "hard" redirects might be the same thing (use of #REDIRECT), but I don't want to change the page now since you are editing. Mike Battaglia (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Regular redirect is #REDIRECT [[Page]], while hard redirect is #REDIRECT [[:en:Page]]. We are including hard redirects in Wiki help#Redirects for maximum compatibility. PiotrGrochowski (talk) 15:46, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello Piotr - from MediaWiki's standpoint, both are the same type of redirect. The "en" prefix is just for inter-language compatibility: you can also create links to [[:de:Wilkommen]], for example: de:Wilkommen. Since we are already on "en", the links [[Home]] and [[:en:Home]] are the same. Likewise with redirects, putting ":en" adds no difference. Try it! You will see they are the same - both "hard" redirects. If you put "en" there, it's what MediaWiki calls an "Interwiki redirect." Mike Battaglia (talk) 18:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
It does have a difference. If not for :en:, Crash wouldn't be crash. The page has a description of hard redirect that is not true for a regular redirect. While it is not intentional MediaWiki behavior, it's required for this migration. 2 1 and 531441 524288 have an excellent use of the hard redirect. PiotrGrochowski (talk) 18:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Removed links to it

This page is protected in a state where it breaks the Conventions. Therefore it is not a proper Xenharmonic Wiki page and all links to it are removed. PiotrGrochowski (info, talk, contribs) 06:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)