User talk:Sintel
Welcome
Hi Sintel,
welcome to the xenharmonic wiki! I'd like to add your native language to the categories. But I'm not sure if this should be nl? BTW, I heard a lot of your music and sounds, which I found very interesting.
Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 10:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Some deletion requests
Hi Sintel, I tried to fix (some of) the problems you addressed, so also your original request has been moved (see User talk:Moremajorthanmajor/Ed7/3). If I did something wrong, please let me know. Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 14:27, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Pathological scales
I saw that you deleted some "Pathological" scales from several EDO pages, so I figured maybe you could tell me what that means in the first place, since attempting to search for pages on the subject just directed me to pages where this term appears. (Naively, I would have thought "Pathological" would imply a negative step size or something like that — does this have a different term?) And why delete them anyway?
- Well, nobody knows what it means, since they were added by User:Moremajorthanmajor, who never explained his terms, and has since been banned.
- – Sintel🎏 (talk) 08:18, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- So could the term be repurposed for something more useful (like scales with negative or blown-out steps)? Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 10:04, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Common examples like collapsed and equalized scales are more accurately described as degenerate than pathological. If you look at examples of pathological objects in mathematics from the Wikipedia article, you'll notice that they're not just "exaggerated" versions of common stuff, they really behave strangely and unintuitively. --Fredg999 (talk) 15:10, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- I thought about collapsed and equalized, but decided those don't really belong to "pathological" — but I am still willing to propose that something like a diatonic scale with a negative value for s is pathological, since you end up with with D sharper than E in the same octave, and B of one octave sharper than C of the next octave. An example on the other end of the Meantone spectrum would be 5L 2s with a fifth flatter than 7edo, but continuing down the Meantone spectrum instead of switching to Mavila here the sharp of one note is flatter than the flat of the same note, and thirds which sound major are actually minor and vice versa, and you have to redefine how the circle of fifths works or redefine major and minor. Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 22:17, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- Common examples like collapsed and equalized scales are more accurately described as degenerate than pathological. If you look at examples of pathological objects in mathematics from the Wikipedia article, you'll notice that they're not just "exaggerated" versions of common stuff, they really behave strangely and unintuitively. --Fredg999 (talk) 15:10, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- So could the term be repurposed for something more useful (like scales with negative or blown-out steps)? Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 10:04, 16 April 2025 (UTC)