Xenharmonic Wiki:Wikifuture
Hello there! This page is for general discussion on how to improve the wiki. A community wish list of sorts.
If you have an experimental proposal for changing or adding to the wiki in a new way, post it on this page.
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Future of this wiki
Please leave suggestions below. Don't forget to sign them: type ~~~~ after your comment to leave a signature. For example: Mike Battaglia (talk) 12:46, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Improved Yahoo! search engine
Now that you can do an advanced search of the tuning (or other) list over the entirety of its life on Yahoo, there is less need to copy things from the tuning list archive. On the other hand, particularly well-written emails might deserve to get their own page. Authors' permissions necessary? zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Database of "microtonal solutions"
Not only examples of hardware-software setups as Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested, but also acoustic solutions, experiencial instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare microtonal instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments (providing the curators of them want this)
An instrument-centric approach: MicrotonalInstruments. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Improved Listening List
The list of downloadable microtonal sounds is in good shape. It does need people to watch relevant sources (tuning and MMM lists come to mind) and add/update the links. A reviewing or rating system, perhaps also of CD releases, may additionally be helpful. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Pages on debates?
Do we want to touch the dangerous stuff? JI vs. ET vs. EDO? MMM vs. just plain MM? The point would not be to have another place to play out the old arguments, but to make something useful out of them.
On the other hand, we could make pages on points that many can agree on, with the aim of working together to come up with ways to meet our collective goals. The obvious one, originally Harry Partch: Microtonality is overlooked or dismissed all too often, and the best way to counter its detractors is in making good music with it. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
More on making things: a radical proposal
To me, the wiki as a structure remains an invitation to try new ways to represent information and to cause social interaction to happen. Much of this is overlap with the general Web 2.0 mentality, as well as creeping exhibitionism: why blog or wiki about something you're doing instead of just doing it? What I add to it are Unreasonable Expectations (that others are doing similar things and just need a poke or two in the direction of sharing) and Half-Baked Ideas (for projects that I personally don't have the time to complete but we can perhaps get a coalition of the wishing-it-would-happen). This idea itself is admittedly half-baked, but (and this is the point) I don't let it stop me.
So the radical proposal is this: be irresponsible. Start something you don't intend to finish, just to see how beautiful it is. Pretend you are backed up by a solid movement of joyous people rather than a smattering of bickering and frigid but seemingly well-meaning folks. And it will (maybe) come true. xenjacob (talk 15:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Javascript strategy
Javascript is by default disabled on Mediawiki for security reasons. However, it could be a really really powerful tool for making accessible, interactive explanations for a lot of things. Just as an example, imagine that any number followed by ¢ would automagically create an exemplary audio file like the one linked to at the top of octave...imagine something like that playing when you hover over the text. Or imagine a Lissajous curve appears in the background when you hover over a just ratio. There are some of us capable in Javascript, and some extant widgets written in Javascript, like Billy Stiltner's MOSedo and AKJ's tools. We need at least a collected xenharmonic Javascript library, and maybe that project can't live here, but it would be nice to see it eventually integrated somehow. Xenjacob (talk) 15:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
Create pages for the Edo recommendation hub page
Create pages where you recommend a list of edos to beginners.
Follow the standardised structure shown on the page Edo recommendation hub page to make it easy for readers to compare with the other lists.
When your page is done, link it on Edo recommendation hub page.
And/or create flow charts to help beginners choose edos, and link those on Edo recommendation hub page.
Budjarn Lambeth 05:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Create a unified "Chains, circles and spirals" page
On the Discord today, Fredg999 posted the following proposal, it received a lot of upvotes:
- "Chains are basically 1d lattices, probably something worth mentioning in some form.
- Circles and spirals are just different ways to represent chains.
- Therefore, it would make sense to have a single page about chains, circles and spirals.
- The merge doesn't have to be done immediately, of course, but I think that's the best course of action in the long term.
- Chains are relevant not only in edos, but also in rank-2 regular temperaments, where the octave dimension is collapsed (as is common in a circle of fifths, for that matter), leaving only one other generator to stack, making a single chain. Several temperament pages have such chains, for that matter."
BudjarnLambeth (talk) 07:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Donations link?
I'd like to contribute to support the site. Where can I do this? I searched (admittedly several weeks ago now) using "contribute", "contribution", "donate", "donation", "subscribe", and "subscription", but did not find anything. (The home page has a section titled "Contributing to the Xenharmonic Wiki", but it doesn't say anything about contributing money to help run the site.) If a page for this (or some functional equivalent) exists (does one exist?), it should have a link from the home page.
Added: Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 21:45, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
Last modified: Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 22:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
- Me too, and I'd like information about who runs it and how it will stay online when people disappear or lose interest, etc. Too much link rot these days... ResonantFrequencies (talk) 22:37, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
- The person who runs it is Tyler Henthorn, contactable on the Xenharmonic Alliance Facebook groups. He is quite busy at the moment though trying to modify the site so it's less vulnerable to AI scraper bots (which cause lag and downtime) - so he may not be able to reply for a few days due to that.
You can alternatively contact any of the people listed in Xenharmonic Wiki:Bureaucrats - Flora and Fredg are the most active.
Anyone can make their own backups of the wiki for free - go to Xenharmonic Wiki:Backups for information on how to do that. --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 02:45, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Page counts for subcategories
On wikipedia, in a category, each subcategory has its number of pages and subcategories shown. It would be helpful to implement this here as well, especially being useful in Category:Todo. Overthink (talk) 06:03, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
To stop formula rendering on all edit summaries
We are planning to change the specification so that equation rendering in the edit comments on each page's History/diffs and Special:RecentChanges is stopped. This is because it can be inconvenient when trying to include regular expressions for sed commands in edit summaries. With this change, raw comments will be displayed, including past edit summaries. We will announce this here, and plan to make the change in about a week. We welcome your opinions. --Dummy index (talk) 16:12, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds like the right thing for security. Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
Protect templates
Some templates, such as Infobox ET, are transcluded onto many pages, and thus should probably be protected. This will prevent vandalism on these templates, as well as safeguard against accidental breakage by inexperienced users. Overthink (talk) 00:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Could you make a list of all the templates that might need to be protected? I think a specific list is more likely to result in something being actioned. I do think this is a broadly good idea. --BudjarnLambeth (talk) 02:39, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- There is a list of top transcluded pages at Special:MostTranscludedPages. I think the top 20 should be fully protected, as well as some metatemplates like Template:Yesno, and some character substitution templates. The top 50 or so should be semi-protected, or maybe extended-confirmed (which doesn't exist yet) protected. There's maybe more; that's just a start. Overthink (talk) 04:14, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
- Have there been issues recently or is it only preventive? I wouldn't want to protect pages excessively either, because that may limit useful contributions as well. If there are specific examples, it might help me understand the current content. (I do skim the recent changes regularly, but I don't necessarily notice all page-breaking changes that may occur.) --Fredg999 (talk) 03:28, 16 February 2026 (UTC)