Talk:159edo/Notation

Atoms of the language

As I understand it, there are Syntonic commas integrated into the symbols, currently only combinations with five base symbols (, , , , ), as well as Septimal comma symbols (, , , ). If we add symbols for 1/4 and 3/4 accidentals and the darts, we can combine them in the table. I'm now working on it... --Xenwolf (talk) 08:26, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Right. --Aura (talk) 12:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Aura, I saw that you were as confused as I about the wide lines above. It results from the image dimensions, the browser automatically adjusts the line height to the upper and lower extrema. BTW: I have 2 files out of 16 ready (the 0.5 sharp and 1.5 sharp, which are easy to extent by the synto-arrows), but I won't upload them until I have finished them all, the darts will most likely follow the septi-flags regarding their vertical position... --Xenwolf (talk) 17:32, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for telling be about those wide lines... Oh, and it's good to see that you've got some more stuff done. For the record, the darts following the septi-flags in terms of their vertical position actually makes sense, though to be fair, once that's done, we ought to tell Kite about our design for the darts, as I suspect that these darts are the accidentals that are best used in Ups and Downs notation on scores. --Aura (talk) 17:48, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

A dart is 1\159 or approximately 1/3 of a Syntonic comma or 1/4 of a Septimal comma. All of them are not exact, but in good approximation. I think you'll find all the symbols you need in the Category:159edo notation, I have to pause now. --Xenwolf (talk) 22:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Dart symbol(s)

I like the idea of universal usability indicating some edo step or double step. The graphical symbols themselves are the least sophisticated glyphs I made, IOW they are still more like a sketch. Maybe the distance between the double darts is a bit too small. Also the angle isn't carefully designed as are the "rounded" edge parts. --Xenwolf (talk) 20:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm glad you like the idea of the darts being universally usable- I mean, they are nothing more than better versions of the glyphs of ups and downs notation after all... As for the distance between the double darts being two small, that really depends on the height of the triple dart glyphs, as the triple dart glyphs should have the same height as a natural accidental. However, you are absolutely right about the rounded edges of the glyphs, those really do need fixing... --Aura (talk) 20:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

One more thing... the angle of the darts is something that should be decided by Kite, as he's the one who first came up with Ups and Downs notation, and besides, he would need to know about the stylistic upgrade anyway. --Aura (talk) 21:10, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

The darts are ready now: I decided for the simplest design. --Xenwolf (talk) 19:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)