Talk:44edo

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Dual-7 edo?

Not sure this edo needs to be treated as dual-7. The flat mapping makes little sense to use. —FloraC (talk) 09:00, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Sharp 7 works with the sharp 3 and sharp 13 (assuming opposites sides of the fraction bar). Flat 7 works with the flat 5 and flat 11 (again assuming opposite sides of the fraction bar). Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 11:36, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
I know. But the sharp 7 is still better overall. —FloraC (talk) 10:28, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
But you really need the flat 7 in combination with the commonly used 5, which is flat, but not flat enough for a wart. And you need it in combination with the commonly used 3 which is sharp, when both are on the same side of the fraction bar. Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 15:18, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
Well I don't think any inconsistency implies there's a point to treat the edo as dual-prime. The question of a dual-prime edo is rather if the two interpretations are about as valid, and in this case I don't think so. For 2.3.7, consider that 39edo, which has an even sharper 7, isn't treated as dual-7 on this wiki, which I think is very fair and should be taken as a sign that the archy mapping prevails over semaphore in this range. The flat 5 here isn't enough to shift the sharp tendency to justify a flat mapping of 7. This is confirmed in Graham Breed's temperament finder, where 44d doesn't come up in the 7-limit at all and 44e comes before 44d in the 11- to 19-limit. —FloraC (talk) 15:50, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
39edo has the advantage that all of the flat harmonics (at least up to 23) are flat enough that you can just wart them all and call it a day. But 44edo has some harmonics that are just moderately sharp or moderately flat (not really working with a wart), so since 7 is far enough off to be wartable, might as well make it dual. Lucius Chiaraviglio (talk) 16:04, 9 May 2026 (UTC)