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* [[Sevond]] (''n'' = 3.5)
* [[Sevond]] (''n'' = 3.5)
* [[Brahmagupta]] (''n'' = 21/4 = 5.25)
* [[Brahmagupta]] (''n'' = 21/4 = 5.25)
* [[Geb]] (''n'' = 16/3 = 5.{{overline|3}})
* [[Raider]] (''n'' = 37/7 = 5.{{overline|285714}})
* [[Raider]] (''n'' = 37/7 = 5.{{overline|285714}})


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The 5-limit 6b&7 temperament. Its name is "porcupine" spelled backwards, because that's what this temperament is - it's porcupine, with the generator sharp of 2\7 such that the major and minor thirds switch places. The fifths are very flat, meaning that this is more of a melodic temperament than a harmonic one.
The 5-limit 6b&7 temperament. Its name is "porcupine" spelled backwards, because that's what this temperament is - it's porcupine, with the generator sharp of 2\7 such that the major and minor thirds switch places. The fifths are very flat, meaning that this is more of a melodic temperament than a harmonic one.


Comma: 1125/1024
Subgroup: 2.3.5


POTE generator: ~16/15 = 173.101
[[Comma list]]: 1125/1024


Map: [<1 2 2|, <0 -3 2|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 -3 2 }}]


EDOs: {{EDOs| 6b, 7 }}
[[POTE generator]]: ~16/15 = 173.101


Badness: 0.1439
{{Val list|legend=1| 6b, 7 }}


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=6b_7&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit Enipucrop]
[[Badness]]: 0.1439


== Absurdity ==
== Absurdity ==
The 5-limit 7&amp;84 temperament, so named because it truly is an absurd temperament. The generator is 81/80 and the period is 800/729, which is (10/9) / (81/80). This is also part of the syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum, in this case where (81/80)<sup>5</sup> = 25/24.
The 5-limit 7&amp;84 temperament, so named because it truly is an absurd temperament. The generator is 81/80 and the period is 800/729, which is (10/9) / (81/80). This is also part of the syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum, in this case where (81/80)<sup>5</sup> = 25/24.


Commas: 10460353203/10240000000
Subgroup: 2.3.5


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 185.901 cents
[[Comma list]]: 10460353203/10240000000


Map: [&lt;7 0 -17|, &lt;0 1 3|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 7 0 -17 }}, {{val| 0 1 3 }}]


EDOs: {{EDOs| 7, 70, 77, 84, 329 }}
[[POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 185.901 cents


Badness: 0.3412
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 70, 77, 84, 329 }}


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=7_84&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit Absurdity]
[[Badness]]: 0.3412


== Sevond ==
== Sevond ==
This is a fairly obvious temperament; it just equates 7 10/9's with a 2/1, hence the period is 10/9. One generator from 5\7 puts you at 3/2, two generators from 2\7 puts you at 5/4.
This is a fairly obvious temperament; it just equates 7 10/9's with a 2/1, hence the period is 10/9. One generator from 5\7 puts you at 3/2, two generators from 2\7 puts you at 5/4.


Comma: 5000000/4782969
Subgroup: 2.3.5


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 706.288 cents
[[Comma list]]: 5000000/4782969


Map: [&lt;7 0 -6|, &lt;0 1 2|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 7 0 -6 }}, {{val| 0 1 2 }}]


EDOs: {{EDOs| 7, 42, 49, 56, 119 }}
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 706.288 cents


Badness: 0.3393
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 42, 49, 56, 119 }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.3393


=== 7-limit ===
=== 7-limit ===
Adding 875/864 to the commas extends this to the 7-limit:
Adding 875/864 to the commas extends this to the 7-limit:


Commas: 875/864, 327680/321489
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.613 cents
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 327680/321489


Map: [&lt;7 0 -6 53|, &lt;0 1 2 -3|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 7 0 -6 53 }}, {{val| 0 1 2 -3 }}]


EDOs: {{EDOs| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 705.613


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=7_49&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit Sevond]
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}


== Seville ==
== Seville ==
This is similar to the above, but provides a less complex avenue to 5, but this time at the cost of accuracy. One generator from 5\7 puts you at 3/2, and one generator from 2\7 puts you at 5/4.
This is similar to the above, but provides a less complex avenue to 5, but this time at the cost of accuracy. One generator from 5\7 puts you at 3/2, and one generator from 2\7 puts you at 5/4.


Comma: 78125/69984
Subgroup: 2.3.5


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 706.410 cents
[[Comma list]]: 78125/69984


Map: [&lt;7 0 5|, &lt;0 1 1|]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 7 0 5 }}, {{val| 0 1 1 }}]


EDOs: {{EDOs| 7, 35b, 42c, 49c, 56cc, 119cccc }}
[[POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 706.410


Badness: 0.4377
{{Val list|legend=1| 7, 35b, 42c, 49c, 56cc, 119cccc }}


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=7_49c&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit Seville]
[[Badness]]: 0.4377


[[Category:7edo]]
[[Category:7edo]]

Revision as of 08:10, 20 August 2021

The syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum is a continuum of temperaments which equate a number of syntonic commas (81/80) with the apotome (2187/2048).

All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)n ~ 2187/2048. Varying n results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to meantone as n approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite n, the continuum describes the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 7edo (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them). The just value of n is 5.2861…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.

2187/2048 has the advantage of being the characteristic 3-limit comma tempered out in 7edo. For each case, we notice that n equals the order of harmonic 5 in the corresponding comma, and equals the number of generators to obtain a harmonic 3 in the MOS scale. However, if we let k = n - 2 (meaning n = k + 2) so that k = 0 means n = 2, k = -1 means n = 1, etc. then the continuum corresponds to (81/80)k = 25/24, which might be a preferred way of conceptualising it because:

  • 25/24 is the chromatic semitone, notable in the 5-limit as the difference between 5/4 and 6/5, so this shifted continuum could also logically be termed the "syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum". This means that at k = 0, 5/4 and 6/5 are mapped to the same interval while 81/80 becomes independent of 25/24 (meaning 81/80 may or may not be tempered) because the relation becomes (81/80)^0 = 1/1 = 25/24.
  • k = 1 and upwards (up to a point) represent temperaments with (the potential for) reasonably good accuracy as equating at least one 81/80 with 25/24 seems like a good lower bound for a temperament intended to model JI. A good upper bound might be gravity (k = 4), with the only exception being meantone (n = k = (unsigned) infinity). (Temperaments corresponding to k = 0, -1, -2 are comparatively low-accuracy to the point of developing various intriguing structures and consequences.)
  • 25/24 is the simplest ratio to be tempered in the continuum, the second simplest being 81/80 at (unsigned) infinity, which together are the two smallest 5-limit superparticular intervals and the only superparticular intervals in the continuum if we don't count non-integer k.
Temperaments in the continuum
k = n − 2 n = k + 2 Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
-2 0 Whitewood 2187/2048 [-11 7
-1 1 Mavila 135/128 [-7 3 1
0 2 Dicot 25/24 [-3 -1 2
1 3 Porcupine 250/243 [1 -5 3
2 4 Tetracot 20000/19683 [5 -9 4
3 5 Amity 1600000/1594323 [9 -13 5
4 6 Gravity 129140163/128000000 [-13 17 -6
5 7 Absurdity 10460353203/10240000000 [-17 21 -7
Meantone 81/80 [-4 4 -1

Examples of temperaments with fractional values of n:

Enipucrop

The 5-limit 6b&7 temperament. Its name is "porcupine" spelled backwards, because that's what this temperament is - it's porcupine, with the generator sharp of 2\7 such that the major and minor thirds switch places. The fifths are very flat, meaning that this is more of a melodic temperament than a harmonic one.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 1125/1024

Mapping: [1 2 2], 0 -3 2]]

POTE generator: ~16/15 = 173.101

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Badness: 0.1439

Absurdity

The 5-limit 7&84 temperament, so named because it truly is an absurd temperament. The generator is 81/80 and the period is 800/729, which is (10/9) / (81/80). This is also part of the syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum, in this case where (81/80)5 = 25/24.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 10460353203/10240000000

Mapping: [7 0 -17], 0 1 3]]

POTE generator: ~10/9 = 185.901 cents

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Badness: 0.3412

Sevond

This is a fairly obvious temperament; it just equates 7 10/9's with a 2/1, hence the period is 10/9. One generator from 5\7 puts you at 3/2, two generators from 2\7 puts you at 5/4.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 5000000/4782969

Mapping: [7 0 -6], 0 1 2]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 706.288 cents

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Badness: 0.3393

7-limit

Adding 875/864 to the commas extends this to the 7-limit:

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 875/864, 327680/321489

Mapping: [7 0 -6 53], 0 1 2 -3]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 705.613

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Seville

This is similar to the above, but provides a less complex avenue to 5, but this time at the cost of accuracy. One generator from 5\7 puts you at 3/2, and one generator from 2\7 puts you at 5/4.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 78125/69984

Mapping: [7 0 5], 0 1 1]]

POTE generator: ~3/2 = 706.410

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Badness: 0.4377