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__FORCETOC__
= Theory =
The ''30 equal division'' divides the octave into 30 equal steps of precisely 40 cents each. Its [[Patent_val|patent val]] is a doubled version of the patent val for [[15edo|15edo]] through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a [[contorted|contorted]] version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for [[Trienstonic_clan#Quindecic|quindecic temperament]].
The ''30 equal division'' divides the octave into 30 equal steps of precisely 40 cents each. Its [[Patent_val|patent val]] is a doubled version of the patent val for [[15edo|15edo]] through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a [[contorted|contorted]] version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for [[Trienstonic_clan#Quindecic|quindecic temperament]].


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[[File:plot30.png|alt=plot30.png|plot30.png]]
[[File:plot30.png|alt=plot30.png|plot30.png]]


==Intervals==
=Intervals=


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^1, ^m2
| style="text-align:center;" | ^1, ^m2
| style="text-align:center;" | up unison, upminor 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | up unison, upminor 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | D^, Eb^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^D, ^Eb
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 2
| style="text-align:center;" | 2
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^^1, v~2
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^1, v~2
| style="text-align:center;" | double-up unison, downmid 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | double-up unison, downmid 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | D^^, Eb^^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^D, ^^Eb
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 3
| style="text-align:center;" | 3
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| style="text-align:center;" | ~2
| style="text-align:center;" | ~2
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | Ev<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>
| style="text-align:center;" | v<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>E
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 4
| style="text-align:center;" | 4
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^~2
| style="text-align:center;" | ^~2
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | Evv
| style="text-align:center;" | vvE
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 5
| style="text-align:center;" | 5
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| style="text-align:center;" | vM2
| style="text-align:center;" | vM2
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | Ev
| style="text-align:center;" | vE
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 6
| style="text-align:center;" | 6
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^m3
| style="text-align:center;" | ^m3
| style="text-align:center;" | upminor 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | upminor 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | F^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^F
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 8
| style="text-align:center;" | 8
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| style="text-align:center;" | v~3
| style="text-align:center;" | v~3
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | F^^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^F
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 9
| style="text-align:center;" | 9
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| style="text-align:center;" | ~3
| style="text-align:center;" | ~3
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | F^<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>
| style="text-align:center;" | ^<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>F, v<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>F#
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 10
| style="text-align:center;" | 10
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^~3
| style="text-align:center;" | ^~3
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | F#vv
| style="text-align:center;" | vvF#
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 11
| style="text-align:center;" | 11
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| style="text-align:center;" | vM3, v4
| style="text-align:center;" | vM3, v4
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 3rd, down 4th
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 3rd, down 4th
| style="text-align:center;" | F#v, Gv
| style="text-align:center;" | vF#, vG
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 12
| style="text-align:center;" | 12
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^4, ^d5
| style="text-align:center;" | ^4, ^d5
| style="text-align:center;" | up 4th, updim 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | up 4th, updim 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | G^, Ab^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^G, ^Ab
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 14
| style="text-align:center;" | 14
| style="text-align:center;" | 560
| style="text-align:center;" | 560
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^4, ^^d5
| style="text-align:center;" | v~4, v~d5
| style="text-align:center;" | double-up 4th, double-up dim 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 4th, downmid 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | G^^, Ab^^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^G, ^^Ab
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 15
| style="text-align:center;" | 15
| style="text-align:center;" | 600
| style="text-align:center;" | 600
| style="text-align:center;" | ^<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>4, v<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>5
| style="text-align:center;" | ~4, ~5
| style="text-align:center;" | triple-up 4th, triple-down 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 4th, mid 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | G^3, Av3
| style="text-align:center;" | ^<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>G, v<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>A
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 16
| style="text-align:center;" | 16
| style="text-align:center;" | 640
| style="text-align:center;" | 640
| style="text-align:center;" | vvA4, vv5
| style="text-align:center;" | ^~A4, ^~5
| style="text-align:center;" | double-down aug 4th, double-down 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 4th, upmid 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | G#vv, Avv
| style="text-align:center;" | vvG#, vvA
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 17
| style="text-align:center;" | 17
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| style="text-align:center;" | vA4, v5
| style="text-align:center;" | vA4, v5
| style="text-align:center;" | downaug 4th, down 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | downaug 4th, down 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | G#v, Av
| style="text-align:center;" | vG#, vA
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 18
| style="text-align:center;" | 18
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^5, ^m6
| style="text-align:center;" | ^5, ^m6
| style="text-align:center;" | up 5th, upminor 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | up 5th, upminor 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | A^, Bb^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^A, ^Bb
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 20
| style="text-align:center;" | 20
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| style="text-align:center;" | v~6
| style="text-align:center;" | v~6
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | Bb^^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^Bb
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 21
| style="text-align:center;" | 21
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| style="text-align:center;" | ~6
| style="text-align:center;" | ~6
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | Bv<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>
| style="text-align:center;" | v<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>B
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 22
| style="text-align:center;" | 22
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^~6
| style="text-align:center;" | ^~6
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | Bvv
| style="text-align:center;" | vvB
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 23
| style="text-align:center;" | 23
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| style="text-align:center;" | vM6
| style="text-align:center;" | vM6
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | Bv
| style="text-align:center;" | vB
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 24
| style="text-align:center;" | 24
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^m7
| style="text-align:center;" | ^m7
| style="text-align:center;" | upminor 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | upminor 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | C^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^C
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 26
| style="text-align:center;" | 26
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| style="text-align:center;" | v~7
| style="text-align:center;" | v~7
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | downmid 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | C^^
| style="text-align:center;" | ^^C
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 27
| style="text-align:center;" | 27
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| style="text-align:center;" | ~7
| style="text-align:center;" | ~7
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | mid 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | C^<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>
| style="text-align:center;" | ^<span style="font-size: 90%; vertical-align: super;">3</span>C
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 28
| style="text-align:center;" | 28
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| style="text-align:center;" | ^~7, vv8
| style="text-align:center;" | ^~7, vv8
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 7th, double-down 8ve
| style="text-align:center;" | upmid 7th, double-down 8ve
| style="text-align:center;" | C#vv, Dvv
| style="text-align:center;" | vvC#, vvD
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 29
| style="text-align:center;" | 29
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| style="text-align:center;" | vM7, v8
| style="text-align:center;" | vM7, v8
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 7th, down 8ve
| style="text-align:center;" | downmajor 7th, down 8ve
| style="text-align:center;" | C#v, Dv
| style="text-align:center;" | vC#, vD
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 30
| style="text-align:center;" | 30
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=Commas=
=Commas=
30 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 30 48 70 84 104 111 | .)
30 EDO tempers out the following [[commas]]. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 30 48 70 84 104 111 | .)


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
! | Comma
! | [[Ratio]]
! | Monzo
! | [[Monzo]]
! | Value (Cents)
! | [[Cents]]
![[Color notation/Temperament Names|Color Name]]
! | Name 1
! | Name 1
! | Name 2
! | Name 2
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| |<nowiki> | 8 -5 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 8 -5 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 90.22
| style="text-align:right;" | 90.22
| style="text-align:center;" |Sawa
| style="text-align:center;" | Limma
| style="text-align:center;" | Limma
| style="text-align:center;" | Pythagorean Minor 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | Pythagorean Minor 2nd
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| |<nowiki> | 1 -5 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 1 -5 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 49.17
| style="text-align:right;" | 49.17
| style="text-align:center;" |Triyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Maximal Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" | Maximal Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" | Porcupine Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Porcupine Comma
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| |<nowiki> | 7 0 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 7 0 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 41.06
| style="text-align:right;" | 41.06
| style="text-align:center;" |Trigu
| style="text-align:center;" | Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" | Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" | Augmented Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Augmented Comma
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| |<nowiki> | -6 -5 6 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -6 -5 6 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.11
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.11
| style="text-align:center;" |Tribiyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Kleisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Kleisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Semicomma Majeur
| style="text-align:center;" | Semicomma Majeur
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| |<nowiki> | -3 1 -3 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -3 1 -3 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 49.49
| style="text-align:right;" | 49.49
| style="text-align:center;" |Trizogu
| style="text-align:center;" | Keega
| style="text-align:center;" | Keega
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -4 -1 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -4 -1 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 35.70
| style="text-align:right;" | 35.70
| style="text-align:center;" |Zozo
| style="text-align:center;" | Slendro Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" | Slendro Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 6 -2 0 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 6 -2 0 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 27.26
| style="text-align:right;" | 27.26
| style="text-align:center;" |Ru
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Archytas' Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Archytas' Comma
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| |<nowiki> | -9 3 -3 4 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -9 3 -3 4 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 22.23
| style="text-align:right;" | 22.23
| style="text-align:center;" |Laquadzo-atrigu
| style="text-align:center;" | Squalentine
| style="text-align:center;" | Squalentine
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -5 -3 3 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -5 -3 3 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 21.90
| style="text-align:right;" | 21.90
| style="text-align:center;" |Zotriyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Keema
| style="text-align:center;" | Keema
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 1 2 -3 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 1 2 -3 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.79
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.79
| style="text-align:center;" |Zotrigu
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Semicomma
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Semicomma
| style="text-align:center;" | Starling Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Starling Comma
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| |<nowiki> | 5 -4 3 -2 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 5 -4 3 -2 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.47
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.47
| style="text-align:center;" |Rurutriyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Octagar
| style="text-align:center;" | Octagar
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -10 1 0 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -10 1 0 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.43
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.43
| style="text-align:center;" |Latrizo
| style="text-align:center;" | Gamelisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Gamelisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 11 1 -3 -2 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 11 1 -3 -2 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 5.36
| style="text-align:right;" | 5.36
| style="text-align:center;" |Saruru-atrigu
| style="text-align:center;" | Porwell
| style="text-align:center;" | Porwell
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -4 6 -6 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -4 6 -6 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.33
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.33
| style="text-align:center;" |Trizogugu
| style="text-align:center;" | Landscape Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Landscape Comma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 2 -2 2 0 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 2 -2 2 0 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 17.40
| style="text-align:right;" | 17.40
| style="text-align:center;" |Luyoyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Ptolemisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Ptolemisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -3 -1 -1 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -3 -1 -1 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 14.37
| style="text-align:right;" | 14.37
| style="text-align:center;" |Lologu
| style="text-align:center;" | Biyatisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Biyatisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 4 0 -2 -1 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 4 0 -2 -1 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 9.86
| style="text-align:right;" | 9.86
| style="text-align:center;" |Lorugugu
| style="text-align:center;" | Valinorsma
| style="text-align:center;" | Valinorsma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 16 0 0 -2 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 16 0 0 -2 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.39
| style="text-align:right;" | 8.39
| style="text-align:center;" |Satrilu-aruru
| style="text-align:center;" | Orgonisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Orgonisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -7 -1 1 1 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -7 -1 1 1 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 4.50
| style="text-align:right;" | 4.50
| style="text-align:center;" |Lozoyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Keenanisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Keenanisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -3 2 -1 2 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -3 2 -1 2 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.93
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.93
| style="text-align:center;" |Luzozogu
| style="text-align:center;" | Werckisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Werckisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | 5 -1 3 0 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | 5 -1 3 0 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.03
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.03
| style="text-align:center;" |Triluyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Wizardharry
| style="text-align:center;" | Wizardharry
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  
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| |<nowiki> | -4 -3 2 -1 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| |<nowiki> | -4 -3 2 -1 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.57
| style="text-align:right;" | 0.57
| style="text-align:center;" |Loloruyoyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Lehmerisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Lehmerisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |