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The '''llywelyn clan''' tempers out the no-threes [[llywelyn comma]], {{monzo| 22 0 -1 -7 }} = 4194304/4117715.
The '''llywelynsmic clan''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] tempers out the no-threes [[llywelyn comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| 22 0 -1 -7 }}, [[ratio]]: 4194304/4117715 }}.  
 
Full 7-limit [[extension]]s of llywelyn temperament include:
* [[Gorgo]] (+36/35) → [[Gamelismic clan #Gorgo|Gamelismic clan]]
* [[Ultrapyth]] (+64/63) → [[Archytas clan #Ultrapyth|Archytas clan]]
* [[Buzzard]] (+1728/1715) → [[Buzzardsmic clan]]
* [[Semaja]] (+3125/3087) → [[Porwell temperaments #Semaja|Porwell temperaments]]
* [[Misneb]] (+225/224) → [[Marvel temperaments #Misneb|Marvel temperaments]]
* [[Gorgik]] (+2401/2400) → [[Breedsmic temperaments #Gorgik|Breedsmic temperaments]]
 
Discussed below is the 2.5.7 subgroup temperament llywelyn a.k.a. shoe.  


== Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe ==
== Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe ==
Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe can be described as the 16 & 21 temperament, starting with the 2.5.7 subgroup up to the no-3 17-limit.  
Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe can be described as the {{nowrap| 16 & 21 }} temperament.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 3 | 0 7 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 3 | 0 7 -1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7
: mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 1 3 | 0 0 7 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 1 3 | 0 0 7 -1 }}


: [[Gencom]]: [2 8/7; 4194304/4117715]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 226.910{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 11c, 16, 21, 37, 164d }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~8/7 = 226.910
=== Overview to extensions ===
Full 7-limit [[extension]]s of llywelyn temperament include:
* [[Gorgo]] (+36/35) → [[Gamelismic clan #Gorgo|Gamelismic clan]]
* [[Ultrapyth]] (+64/63) → [[Archytas clan #Ultrapyth|Archytas clan]]
* [[Buzzard]] (+1728/1715) → [[Buzzardsmic clan]]
* [[Semaja]] (+3125/3087) → [[Porwell temperaments #Semaja|Porwell temperaments]]
* [[Misneb]] (+225/224) → [[Marvel temperaments #Misneb|Marvel temperaments]]
* [[Gorgik]] (+2401/2400) → [[Breedsmic temperaments #Gorgik|Breedsmic temperaments]]


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 11c, 16, 21, 37, 164d }}
Discussed immediately below is the canonical 2.5.7.11-subgroup to 2.5.7.11.13.17-subgroup extension.


=== 2.5.7.11 subgroup ===
=== 2.5.7.11 subgroup ===
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Comma list: 176/175, 1310720/1294139
Comma list: 176/175, 1310720/1294139


Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 1 | 0 7 -1 13 }}
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 1 | 0 7 -1 13 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 3 1 | 0 0 7 -1 13 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 3 1 | 0 0 7 -1 13 }}


: gencom: [2 8/7; 176/175 1310720/1294139]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.114{{c}}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~8/7 = 227.114
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 16, 21, 37, 206cd }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 16, 21, 37, 206cd }}


=== 2.5.7.11.13 subgroup ===
=== 2.5.7.11.13 subgroup ===
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Comma list: 176/175, 640/637, 847/845
Comma list: 176/175, 640/637, 847/845


Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 1 2 | 0 7 -1 13 9 }}
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 1 2 | 0 7 -1 13 9 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 3 1 2 | 0 0 7 -1 13 9 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 3 1 2 | 0 0 7 -1 13 9 }}


: gencom: [2 8/7; 176/175 640/637, 1304576/1294139]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.108{{c}}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~8/7 = 227.108


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 16, 21, 37, 206cdf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 16, 21, 37, 206cdf }}


[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5433 cents
RMS error: 0.5433 cents


=== 2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup ===
=== 2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup ===
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Comma list: 176/175, 221/220, 640/637, 847/845
Comma list: 176/175, 221/220, 640/637, 847/845


Sval mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 1 2 2 | 0 7 -1 13 9 11 }}
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 3 1 2 2 | 0 7 -1 13 9 11 }}


Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 3 1 2 2 | 0 0 7 -1 13 9 11 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 3 1 2 2 | 0 0 7 -1 13 9 11 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~8/7 = 227.242
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~8/7 = 227.242{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 16, 21, 37, 95 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 16, 21, 37, 95 }}


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Revision as of 09:47, 28 May 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The llywelynsmic clan of temperaments tempers out the no-threes llywelyn comma (monzo[22 0 -1 -7, ratio: 4194304/4117715 }}.

Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe

Llywelyn a.k.a. shoe can be described as the 16 & 21 temperament.

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma list: 4194304/4117715

Subgroup-val mapping[1 1 3], 0 7 -1]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~8/7

Gencom mapping[1 0 1 3], 0 0 7 -1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~8/7 = 226.910 ¢

Optimal ET sequence5, 11c, 16, 21, 37, 164d

Overview to extensions

Full 7-limit extensions of llywelyn temperament include:

Discussed immediately below is the canonical 2.5.7.11-subgroup to 2.5.7.11.13.17-subgroup extension.

2.5.7.11 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 1310720/1294139

Subgroup-val mapping: [1 1 3 1], 0 7 -1 13]]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3 1], 0 0 7 -1 13]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.114 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 16, 21, 37, 206cd

2.5.7.11.13 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 176/175, 640/637, 847/845

Subgroup-val mapping: [1 1 3 1 2], 0 7 -1 13 9]]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3 1 2], 0 0 7 -1 13 9]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.108 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 16, 21, 37, 206cdf

RMS error: 0.5433 cents

2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 176/175, 221/220, 640/637, 847/845

Subgroup-val mapping: [1 1 3 1 2 2], 0 7 -1 13 9 11]]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3 1 2 2], 0 0 7 -1 13 9 11]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~8/7 = 227.242 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 16, 21, 37, 95