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{{Harmonics in equal|12|3|1|intervals=prime}}
{{Harmonics in equal|12|3|1|intervals=prime}}


==Scala file==
== Scala file ==
 
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==Theory==
== Theory ==
In octave land, 12edo handles the 2.3.5 subgroup and [[11edo]] handles the 2.7.11 subgroup - ie. meantone and orgone temperaments. In tritave land however, 13edt handles the 3.5.7 territory (Bohlen-Pierce) and 12edt handles the 2.3.5.13.17.19 -- AND! it is a multiple of 4edt which is the simplest BP equal temperament.
In octave land, 12edo handles the 2.3.5 subgroup and [[11edo]] handles the 2.7.11 subgroup—ie. meantone and orgone temperaments. In tritave land however, 13edt handles the 3.5.7 territory (Bohlen–Pierce) and 12edt handles the 2.3.5.13.17.19—and, it is a multiple of 4edt which is the simplest BP equal temperament.


===Macrodiatonic and macromeantone===
=== Macrodiatonic and macromeantone ===
12edt can be viewed as a version of [[12edo]] with octaves stretched out to [[3/1|tritaves]], so it contains an extremely stretched diatonic scale or [[macrodiatonic and microdiatonic|macrodiatonic]] scale ([[5L 2s (3/1-equivalent)|5L 2s<3/1>]]). This scale has an identical structure to diatonic, but with everything stretched out to be unrecognizable-for example, the "perfect fifth" is inflated to the size of a major seventh. The stretched perfect fifth can be approximated by [[17/9]] and the stretched major third by [[13/9]]. This gives rise to a "macromeantone" temperament which operates in the 3.13.17 subgroup, equating 4 [[17/9]] to [[13/9]] tritave-reduced, rather than 4 [[3/2]] to [[5/4]] octave-reduced (although this is not a completely exact stretching of meantone, unlike some macromeantones like [[meansquared]] which repeats at [[4/1]]).
12edt can be viewed as a version of [[12edo]] with octaves stretched out to [[3/1|tritaves]], so it contains an extremely stretched diatonic scale or [[macrodiatonic and microdiatonic|macrodiatonic]] scale ([[5L 2s (3/1-equivalent)|5L 2s<3/1>]]). This scale has an identical structure to diatonic, but with everything stretched out to be unrecognizable—for example, the "perfect fifth" is inflated to the size of a major seventh. The stretched perfect fifth can be approximated by [[17/9]] and the stretched major third by [[13/9]]. This gives rise to a "macromeantone" temperament which operates in the 3.13.17 subgroup, equating 4 [[17/9]] to [[13/9]] tritave-reduced, rather than 4 [[3/2]] to [[5/4]] octave-reduced (although this is not a completely exact stretching of meantone, unlike some macromeantones like [[meansquared]] which repeats at [[4/1]]).


Another example of a macrodiatonic scale is [[17ed5|hyperpyth]] which repeats at the fifth harmonic and is based on the 5:9:13:(17):(21) chord.
Another example of a macrodiatonic scale is [[17ed5|hyperpyth]] which repeats at the fifth harmonic and is based on the 5:9:13:(17):(21) chord.


==Compositions==
== Compositions ==
[https://archive.org/details/InstantGamelan Instant Gamelan] by [[Carlo_Serafini|Carlo Serafini]]
[https://archive.org/details/InstantGamelan Instant Gamelan] by [[Carlo_Serafini|Carlo Serafini]]



Revision as of 18:26, 25 February 2025

← 11edt 12edt 13edt →
Prime factorization 22 × 3 (highly composite)
Step size 158.496 ¢ 
Octave 8\12edt (1267.97 ¢) (→ 2\3edt)
Consistency limit 3
Distinct consistency limit 3

12edt divides 3, the tritave, into 12 equal parts of 158.496 cents each, corresponding to 7.571 edo, and can be used as a generator chain for hemikleismic temperament. From a no-twos point of view, it tempers out 49/45 and 27/25 in the 7-limit, and 1331/1125 and 1331/1225 in the 11-limit.

Interval table

Steps Cents Hekts Approximate ratios
0 0 0 1/1
1 158.5 108.3 21/19, 23/21
2 317 216.7 6/5, 13/11, 17/14, 23/19
3 475.5 325 17/13
4 634 433.3 13/9, 19/13
5 792.5 541.7 11/7, 14/9
6 951 650 19/11
7 1109.5 758.3 17/9, 21/11
8 1268 866.7 19/9, 23/11
9 1426.5 975
10 1585 1083.3 5/2
11 1743.5 1191.7 19/7
12 1902 1300 3/1

Prime harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 12edt
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31
Error Absolute (¢) +68.0 +0.0 +66.6 -40.4 -30.4 -2.6 +8.4 -25.6 -39.4 +34.8 +77.8
Relative (%) +42.9 +0.0 +42.0 -25.5 -19.2 -1.7 +5.3 -16.2 -24.9 +21.9 +49.1
Steps
(reduced)
8
(8)
12
(0)
18
(6)
21
(9)
26
(2)
28
(4)
31
(7)
32
(8)
34
(10)
37
(1)
38
(2)

Scala file

! C:\Cakewalk\scales\tritave-in-12.scl
!
3/1 in 12
12
!
158.49625
316.99250
475.48875
633.98500
792.48125
950.97750
1109.47375
1267.97000
1426.46625
1584.96250
1743.45875
3/1

Theory

In octave land, 12edo handles the 2.3.5 subgroup and 11edo handles the 2.7.11 subgroup—ie. meantone and orgone temperaments. In tritave land however, 13edt handles the 3.5.7 territory (Bohlen–Pierce) and 12edt handles the 2.3.5.13.17.19—and, it is a multiple of 4edt which is the simplest BP equal temperament.

Macrodiatonic and macromeantone

12edt can be viewed as a version of 12edo with octaves stretched out to tritaves, so it contains an extremely stretched diatonic scale or macrodiatonic scale (5L 2s<3/1>). This scale has an identical structure to diatonic, but with everything stretched out to be unrecognizable—for example, the "perfect fifth" is inflated to the size of a major seventh. The stretched perfect fifth can be approximated by 17/9 and the stretched major third by 13/9. This gives rise to a "macromeantone" temperament which operates in the 3.13.17 subgroup, equating 4 17/9 to 13/9 tritave-reduced, rather than 4 3/2 to 5/4 octave-reduced (although this is not a completely exact stretching of meantone, unlike some macromeantones like meansquared which repeats at 4/1).

Another example of a macrodiatonic scale is hyperpyth which repeats at the fifth harmonic and is based on the 5:9:13:(17):(21) chord.

Compositions

Instant Gamelan by Carlo Serafini

Tritave in 12 by Chris Vaisvil