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Most [[MOS scale|MOS scales]] are awkward. The only non-awkward MOS scales that contain a perfect 5th are those from the [[Magic|Laquinyo]] temperament, which are generated by the downmajor 3rd. These have a small step of one fret. They have either a very lopsided L/s ratio or more than 12 notes. Besides these, the least awkward MOS scales with a 5th are the plain pentatonics: P1 M2 M3 P5 M6 P8 (major), or P1 m3 P4 P5 m7 P8 (minor), or the two thirdless modes. | Most [[MOS scale|MOS scales]] are awkward. The only non-awkward MOS scales that contain a perfect 5th are those from the [[Magic|Laquinyo]] temperament, which are generated by the downmajor 3rd. These have a small step of one fret. They have either a very lopsided L/s ratio or more than 12 notes. Besides these, the least awkward MOS scales with a 5th are the plain pentatonics: P1 M2 M3 P5 M6 P8 (major), or P1 m3 P4 P5 m7 P8 (minor), or the two thirdless modes. | ||
Every scale can be thought of as a chord, e.g. the 12edo major pentatonic scale is a 6add9 pentad. Many pentads and heptads have an innate comma which 41edo does not temper out. Thus many Kite Guitar scales are "fuzzy", meaning a scale degree may vary by 1 edostep, in order to avoid a wolf 5th. In the tables below, a note that may be either a M2 or a vM2 is indicated by (v)M2. In general, major scales have a fuzzy 2nd and minor scales have a fuzzy 4th. But it depends on the chord progression. For example, Iv - IVv - Vv7 - Iv requires a major scale with a fuzzy 4th. | Every scale can be thought of as a chord, e.g. the 12edo major pentatonic scale is a 6add9 pentad. Many pentads and heptads have an innate comma which 41edo does not temper out. Thus many Kite Guitar scales are "fuzzy", meaning a scale degree may vary by 1 edostep, in order to avoid a wolf 5th. In the tables below, a note that may be either a M2 or a vM2 is indicated by (v)M2. In general, major scales have a fuzzy 2nd and minor scales have a fuzzy 4th. But it depends on the chord progression. For example, Iv - IVv - Vv7 - Iv requires a major scale with a fuzzy 4th. Intervals can also be thought of as fuzzy. For example, a fuzzy major 2nd can be either a M2 or a vM2. | ||
Intervals can also be thought of as fuzzy. For example, a fuzzy major 2nd can be either a M2 or a vM2 | |||
== The Format == | == The Format == | ||
The modes of a scale are grouped together. Not every mode is shown. Often two scales are modes only because of the fuzzy notes, e.g. downmajor and upminor. Two modes of a scale will use the same prime subgroup, so modes are grouped by subgroup. Subgroups are explained on the other scales page [[Kite Giedraitis's Categorizations of 41edo Scales]]. | The modes of a scale are grouped together. Not every mode is shown. Often two scales are modes only because of the fuzzy notes, e.g. downmajor and upminor. Two modes of a scale will use the same prime subgroup, so modes are grouped by subgroup. Subgroups are explained on the other scales page [[Kite Giedraitis's Categorizations of 41edo Scales]]. | ||
Each scale has steps of various sizes, shown as a series of edosteps. A dash separates the P1-P5 section of the scale from the P5-P8 section. | Each scale has steps of various sizes, shown as a series of edosteps. A dash separates the P1-P5 section of the scale from the P5-P8 section. An odd number always hops a string, an even number never does. This chart translates the edostep sizes into 41-edo notation: | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
| Line 46: | Line 44: | ||
|^m3 | |^m3 | ||
|} | |} | ||
The step sizes column shows the sizes used. Two modes of a scale will have the same step sizes, so modes are also grouped by step sizes. The largest-to-smallest ratio L/s indicates how even the scale is. For example, the downminor heptatonic scale has a very large L/s ratio of 8/2 = 4, giving it a lopsided feel. But the downminor ''pentatonic'' scale has a very small L/s ratio of only 9/7 = 1.29, giving it an even [[5-edo|equipentatonic]] feel. | The edosteps that can be swapped due to fuzziness are underlined. For example, in the first pentatonic scale, downing the 2nd makes <u>7 6</u> 11 - 6 7 become <u>6 7</u> 11 - 6 7. The two step sizes almost always differ by one, something like <u>4 6</u> becoming <u>5 5</u> never occurs. Hence the fuzziness never affects the overall step sizes. The only exceptions are the dorian and locrian scales, which are problematic anyway. | ||
The step sizes column shows the sizes used. Two modes of a scale will have the same step sizes, so modes are also grouped by step sizes. The largest-to-smallest ratio L/s indicates how even the scale is. For example, the downminor heptatonic scale has a very large L/s ratio of 8/2 = 4, giving it a lopsided feel. But the downminor ''pentatonic'' scale has a very small L/s ratio of only 9/7 = 1.29, giving it an even [[5-edo|equipentatonic]] feel. | |||
The steps column analyzes the scale by the usual MOS notation of how many large and small steps there are. Some scales have m for medium, and even XL for extra large and xs for extra small. Most scales are not actually MOS, but a fuzzy MOS. For example, the first two pentatonic scales are 2L 1m 2s, where L=11, m=7 and s=6. The single m step can be thought of as a fuzzy version of the s step, making a fuzzy 2L 3s MOS scale. | The steps column analyzes the scale by the usual MOS notation of how many large and small steps there are. Some scales have m for medium, and even XL for extra large and xs for extra small. Most scales are not actually MOS, but a fuzzy MOS. For example, the first two pentatonic scales are 2L 1m 2s, where L=11, m=7 and s=6. The single m step can be thought of as a fuzzy version of the s step, making a fuzzy 2L 3s MOS scale. | ||
Harmonic and subharmonic scales are contiguous segments of the harmonic and subharmonic series respectively. They are never fuzzy. Harmonic and subharmonic may be abbreviated as har- and subhar-, e.g. harmajor pentatonic. Pentatonic scales use (sub)harmonics 5-10, and heptatonic scales use (sub)harmonics 7-14. In harmonic scales, the step sizes get smaller as you ascend. In subharmonic scales, they get larger. In general, given a choice between an Ls sequence and an sL sequence, the first is often more otonal, and more consonant. For example, P1-M2-vM3 vs. P1-vM2-vM3, or P1-vm3-P4 vs. P1-^M2-P4, or even P1-vM3-P5 vs. P1-^m3-P5. (One exception: P4-d5-P5 is more otonal that P4-A4-P5.) Likewise for the choice between LLs and LsL and sLL, or between Lss and sLs and ssL, the first is generally more consonant. | Harmonic and subharmonic scales are contiguous segments of the harmonic and subharmonic series respectively. They are never fuzzy. Harmonic and subharmonic may be abbreviated as har- and subhar-, e.g. harmajor pentatonic. Pentatonic scales use (sub)harmonics 5-10, and heptatonic scales use (sub)harmonics 7-14. In harmonic scales, the step sizes get smaller as you ascend. In subharmonic scales, they get larger. In general, given a choice between an Ls sequence and an sL sequence, the first is often more otonal, and more consonant. For example, P1-M2-vM3 vs. P1-vM2-vM3, or P1-vm3-P4 vs. P1-^M2-P4, or even P1-vM3-P5 vs. P1-^m3-P5. (One exception: P4-d5-P5 is more otonal that P4-A4-P5. But P1-^m2-M2 is better than P1-m2-M2.) Likewise for the choice between LLs and LsL and sLL, or between Lss and sLs and ssL, the first is generally more consonant. | ||
Scales are loosely named similarly to how chords are named. Adding up or down to a scale name affects the 3rd, 6th and 7th. However, there are usually fuzzy notes not implied by the name. Harmonic and subharmonic scales are named after the tonic triad, minus the up or down. | |||
Some scales are listed as chains of 5ths. For example, the downmajor scale is P1 (v)M2 vM3 P4 P5 vM6 vM7 P8. There are two chains: P4-P1-P5-M2 and vM2-vM6-vM3-vM7. This is condensed to P415M2 vM2637. Here the two chains overlap on a fuzzy note. However, the near-equidistant heptatonic scales do not, and have a wolf 5th. | Some scales are listed as chains of 5ths. For example, the downmajor scale is P1 (v)M2 vM3 P4 P5 vM6 vM7 P8. There are two chains: P4-P1-P5-M2 and vM2-vM6-vM3-vM7. This is condensed to P415M2 vM2637. Here the two chains overlap on a fuzzy note. However, the near-equidistant heptatonic scales do not, and have a wolf 5th. | ||
The moves column is perhaps the most practical information in the table. It says how many frets to move up or down as you ascend the scale. Positive numbers refer to forward moves that move up the fretboard on a single string. Negative numbers refer to backwards moves that move up a string, then down the fretboard. The moves are not listed in order of size. Rather, | The moves column is perhaps the most practical information in the table. It says how many frets to move up or down as you ascend the scale. Positive numbers refer to forward moves that move up the fretboard on a single string. Negative numbers refer to backwards moves that move up a string, then down the fretboard. The moves are not listed in order of size. Rather, forward moves are listed, then backward moves. In each category, they are listed by how often they occur in the scale. Assuming no excess string-hopping, there will always be 3 backward moves per octave. There are at most only two sizes of backward moves, the first one occuring twice and the second one once. | ||
To see how this works, consider the two | To see how this works, consider the two ya pentatonic scales. Their two main moves are +3 and -1. Any short sequence of moves that alternates between +3 and -1 will be some fragment of these scales. Likewise +4 and -2 moves evoke the two za pentatonic scales. And +3 and -3 moves, with some +2 moves, evoke the ya heptatonic modes. | ||
== Pentatonic Scales == | == Pentatonic Scales == | ||
Every pentatonic scale has 5 modes, but only those modes with a non-fuzzy 5th are listed. | Every pentatonic scale has 5 modes, but only those modes with a non-fuzzy 5th are listed. | ||
=== Major and minor scales === | === Major and minor scales === | ||
The za scales are nearly [[5-edo|equipentatonic]], dividing the P4 into two nearly equal steps of ^M2 and vm3 | The za scales are nearly [[5-edo|equipentatonic]], dividing the P4 into two nearly equal steps of 8 and 9 edosteps (^M2 and vm3). Since one is a 2nd and the other a 3rd, this can conflict with one's categorical perception of intervals. Best to think of them both as "penta-2nds". | ||
{| class="wikitable left-9 center-all" | {| class="wikitable left-9 center-all" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
| Line 86: | Line 88: | ||
|P15M2 vM263 | |P15M2 vM263 | ||
|<u>7 6</u> 11 - 6 11 | |<u>7 6</u> 11 - 6 11 | ||
| rowspan="2" |11 7 6 | | rowspan="2" |11 7 6 | ||
L/s = 1.83 | L/s = 1.83 | ||
| rowspan="2" |2L 1m 2s | | rowspan="2" |2L 1m 2s | ||
or 2L 3s | or 2L 3s | ||
| rowspan="2" | +3, -1, -3 | | rowspan="2" | +3, -1, -3 | ||
| Line 115: | Line 117: | ||
|vm37v4 P415 | |vm37v4 P415 | ||
|9 <u>8 7</u> - 9 8 | |9 <u>8 7</u> - 9 8 | ||
| rowspan="2" |9 8 7 | | rowspan="2" |9 8 7 | ||
L/s = 1.29 | L/s = 1.29 | ||
| rowspan="2" |2L 2m 1s | | rowspan="2" |2L 2m 1s | ||
or 2L 3s | or 2L 3s | ||
or 5L | |||
| rowspan="2" | +4, -2, -3 | | rowspan="2" | +4, -2, -3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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=== Harmonic and subharmonic scales === | === Harmonic and subharmonic scales === | ||
Note that the harmonic ''major'' scale contains a down''minor'' 7th, and the harmonic ''minor'' scale contains a down''major'' 6th. Likewise with the subharmajor and subharminor scales. A harmonic diminished pentatonic scale would be P1 ^m3 d5 ^m6 ^m7 P8 = 5:6:7:8:9. But it's not very plausible, and would be heard as one of the other modes. | |||
{| class="wikitable left-9 center-all" | {| class="wikitable left-9 center-all" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
| Line 158: | Line 162: | ||
|v9 = 8:9:10:12:14 | |v9 = 8:9:10:12:14 | ||
|7 6 11 - 9 8 | |7 6 11 - 9 8 | ||
| rowspan="2" |11 9 8 7 6 | | rowspan="2" |11 9 8 7 6 | ||
L/s = 1.83 | L/s = 1.83 | ||
| rowspan="2" |1XL 1L 1m 1s 1xs | | rowspan="2" |1XL 1L 1m 1s 1xs | ||
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|9 11 - 6 7 8 | |9 11 - 6 7 8 | ||
|} | |} | ||
All five of these scales are "anti-[[MOS scale|MOS]]", meaning that each scale step has a unique size. There are too many moves to list. | All five of these scales are "anti-[[MOS scale|MOS]]", meaning that each scale step has a unique size. There are too many types of moves to list. These scales are half ya, half za. | ||
== Heptatonic Scales == | == Heptatonic Scales == | ||
=== Major and minor scales === | === Major and minor scales === | ||
See below for modes of these scales. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
| Line 239: | Line 243: | ||
|P415M2 vM2637 | |P415M2 vM2637 | ||
|<u>76</u>47-674 | |<u>76</u>47-674 | ||
| rowspan="2" |7 6 4 | | rowspan="2" |7 6 4 | ||
L/s = 1.75 | L/s = 1.75 | ||
| rowspan="2" |3L 2M 2s | | rowspan="2" |3L 2M 2s | ||
or 5L 2s | or 5L 2s | ||
| rowspan="2" | +3, +2, -3 | | rowspan="2" | +3, +2, -3 | ||
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|P8 | |P8 | ||
|^m637^4 P415M2 | |^m637^4 P415M2 | ||
|74<u> | |74<u>67</u>-476 | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="2" |za | ! rowspan="2" |za | ||
| Line 270: | Line 274: | ||
|vm637v4 P415M2 | |vm637v4 P415M2 | ||
|72<u>87</u>-278 | |72<u>87</u>-278 | ||
| rowspan="2" |8 7 2 | | rowspan="2" |8 7 2 | ||
L/s = 4 | L/s = 4 | ||
| rowspan="2" |2L 3M 2s | | rowspan="2" |2L 3M 2s | ||
or 5L 2s | or 5L 2s | ||
| rowspan="2" | +4, +1, -3 | | rowspan="2" | +4, +1, -3 | ||
| Line 287: | Line 291: | ||
|P415M2 ^M2637 | |P415M2 ^M2637 | ||
|<u>78</u>27-872 | |<u>78</u>27-872 | ||
|} | |||
=== Altered minor scales === | |||
The conventional 12-edo melodic minor and harmonic minor scales are [[MODMOS]] scales, modified MOS scales. This is a sort of "macro-fuzziness", where one scale step can vary by an entire semitone. The two harmonic downminor scales have an enormous L/s ratio! | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|+ | |||
!subgroup | |||
!name | |||
! colspan="8" |scale | |||
!as chains of 5ths | |||
!as edosteps | |||
!step sizes | |||
!steps | |||
!moves | |||
|- | |||
!ya | |||
(2.3.5) | |||
!harmonic | |||
upminor | |||
|P1 | |||
|M2 | |||
|^m3 | |||
|P4 | |||
|P5 | |||
|^m6 | |||
|vM7 | |||
|P8 | |||
|^m63 P415M2 vM7 | |||
|7467-494 | |||
|9 7 6 4 | |||
L/s = 2.25 | |||
|1XL 2L 1m 3s | |||
or 1L 3m 2s | |||
| +2, +3, -3, -2 | |||
|- | |||
!" | |||
!melodic | |||
upminor | |||
|P1 | |||
|M2 | |||
|^m3 | |||
|P4 | |||
|P5 | |||
|vM6 | |||
|vM7 | |||
|P8 | |||
|^m3 P415M2 vM6 vM7 | |||
|7467-674 | |||
|7 6 4 | |||
L/s = 1.75 | |||
|3L 2m 2s | |||
or 5L 2s | |||
| +3, +2, -3 | |||
|- | |||
!za | |||
(2.3.7) | |||
!harmonic | |||
downminor | |||
|P1 | |||
|M2 | |||
|vm3 | |||
|P4 | |||
|P5 | |||
|vm6 | |||
|^M7 | |||
|P8 | |||
|vm63 P415M2 ^M7 | |||
|7287-2,13,2 | |||
|13 8 7 2 | |||
L/s = 6.5 | |||
|1XL 1L 2m 3s | |||
or 1L 3m 3s | |||
| +1, +4, -3, -0 | |||
|- | |||
!" | |||
!harmonic | |||
downminor ^#4 | |||
|P1 | |||
|M2 | |||
|vm3 | |||
|^A4 | |||
|P5 | |||
|vm6 | |||
|^M7 | |||
|P8 | |||
|vm63 P15M2 ^M7^A4 | |||
|7,2,13,2-2,13,2 | |||
|13 7 2 | |||
L/s = 6.5 | |||
|2L 1m 4s | |||
| +1, -0, -3 | |||
|- | |||
!" | |||
!melodic | |||
downminor | |||
|P1 | |||
|M2 | |||
|vm3 | |||
|P4 | |||
|P5 | |||
|^M6 | |||
|^M7 | |||
|P8 | |||
|vm3 P415M2 ^M6 ^M7 | |||
|7287-872 | |||
|8 7 2 | |||
L/s = 4 | |||
|2L 3m 2s | |||
or 5L 2s | |||
| +4, +1, -3 | |||
|} | |} | ||
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These all have the same prime subgroup, yazalatha (2.3.5.7.11.13). They use harmonics 7-14. Adding the 15th harmonic (the '''bolded''' note) makes an octotonic scale that uses harmonics 8-16. Again, the scales are named after the triad implied by the 3rd and 5th, minus the up or down. If there are two 3rds, the unbolded one is used. Each scale contains the similarly-named pentatonic scale, e.g. the harmajor scale contains the harmajor pentatonic scale. Subhardim = 14/(14:13:12:11:10:9:8) is a theoretical possibility. | These all have the same prime subgroup, yazalatha (2.3.5.7.11.13). They use harmonics 7-14. Adding the 15th harmonic (the '''bolded''' note) makes an octotonic scale that uses harmonics 8-16. Again, the scales are named after the triad implied by the 3rd and 5th, minus the up or down. If there are two 3rds, the unbolded one is used. Each scale contains the similarly-named pentatonic scale, e.g. the harmajor scale contains the harmajor pentatonic scale. Subhardim = 14/(14:13:12:11:10:9:8) is a theoretical possibility. | ||
In the edosteps column, the '''bolded''' numbers are those that would merge into one step if the 15th harmonic were excluded. Thus '''44''' would become 8. One of the hallmarks of harmonic and subharmonic scales is that each step has a unique size. Unfortunately, in 41edo, these scales do not have unique step sizes. | In the edosteps column, the '''bolded''' numbers are those that would merge into one step if the 15th harmonic were excluded. Thus '''44''' would become 8. One of the hallmarks of harmonic and subharmonic scales is that each step has a unique size. Unfortunately, in 41edo, these scales do not have unique step sizes, especially the octotonic ones. | ||
{| class="wikitable left-11 center-all" | {| class="wikitable left-11 center-all" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
| Line 315: | Line 429: | ||
|8:9:10:11:12:13:14:'''15''' | |8:9:10:11:12:13:14:'''15''' | ||
|7665-54'''44''' | |7665-54'''44''' | ||
| rowspan="2" |8(='''44''') 7 6 5 4 | | rowspan="2" |8(='''44''') 7 6 5 4 | ||
L/s = 2 or 1.75 | L/s = 2 or 1.75 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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|} | |} | ||
=== The seven diatonic modes === | === The seven diatonic modes === | ||
Generalizing major and minor to 41edo is fairly straightforward. | Generalizing major and minor to 41edo is fairly straightforward. The dorian and locrian modes don't translate well. The other five ya modes are formed from this collection of notes: | ||
<tt> | <tt> | ||
D ----- A ----- E ----- B | D ----- A ----- E ----- B | ||
| Line 369: | Line 483: | ||
\ / \ / \ / \ | \ / \ / \ / \ | ||
^F ---- ^C ---- ^G ---- ^D | ^F ---- ^C ---- ^G ---- ^D | ||
</tt> | </tt> | ||
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vF \ / vC \ / vG \ / vD \ | vF \ / vC \ / vG \ / vD \ | ||
D ----- A ----- E ----- B | D ----- A ----- E ----- B | ||
</tt> | </tt> | ||
In both cases, the D is fuzzy. But the two dorian scales and the two locrian scales are not from these lattices, and are not actually modes of the other scales. | In both cases, the D is fuzzy. But the two dorian scales and the two locrian scales are not from these lattices, and are not actually modes of the other scales. | ||
To be consistent, the two dorian scales should have a fuzzy tonic. To avoid this, and to provide all six triads, there are ''two'' fuzzy notes. Note that the 6th of the <u>up</u>dorian scale can be <u>downed</u>. | To be consistent, the two dorian scales should have a fuzzy tonic. To avoid this, and to provide all six triads, there are ''two'' fuzzy notes. Note that the 6th of the <u>up</u>dorian scale can be <u>downed</u>. Note that this fuzziness affects the step sizes, and 74<u>67</u>-<u>74</u>7 can become 74<u>67</u>-<u>65</u>7. | ||
To be consistent, the | To be consistent, the two locrian scales should have an upflat or downflat 5th. To get a plain flat 5th, and thus a more consonant 5:6:7 or 7/(7:6:5) tonic triad, the 5th is fuzzy as well as the 3rd. Again, this fuzziness affects the step sizes. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
| Line 409: | Line 525: | ||
|P15M26 vM637vA4 | |P15M26 vM637vA4 | ||
|7674-<u>76</u>4 | |7674-<u>76</u>4 | ||
| rowspan="5" |7 6 4 | | rowspan="5" |7 6 4 | ||
L/s = 1.75 | L/s = 1.75 | ||
| rowspan="5" |3L 2M 2s | | rowspan="5" |3L 2M 2s | ||
or 5L 2s | or 5L 2s | ||
| rowspan="5" |+3, +2, -3 | | rowspan="5" | +3, +2, -3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!downmajor | !downmajor | ||
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|P8 | |P8 | ||
|^m637^4 P415M2 | |^m637^4 P415M2 | ||
|74<u> | |74<u>67</u>-476 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!upphrygian | !upphrygian | ||
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|^m7 | |^m7 | ||
|P8 | |P8 | ||
| | |^m37^4 P415M26 vM6 | ||
| | |74<u>67</u>-<u>74</u>7 | ||
|7 6 5 4 | |7 6 (5) 4 | ||
| | |varies | ||
| | |too many | ||
|- | |- | ||
!" | !" | ||
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|m7 | |m7 | ||
|P8 | |P8 | ||
| | |d5 ^d5^m263 m37P41 | ||
| | |4<u>67</u> <u>3-8</u>67 | ||
|8 7 6 4 3 | |(8) 7 6 4 (3) | ||
| | |varies | ||
| | |too many | ||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="5" |za | ! rowspan="5" |za | ||
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|P15M26 ^M637^A4 | |P15M26 ^M637^A4 | ||
|7872-<u>78</u>2 | |7872-<u>78</u>2 | ||
| rowspan="5" |8 7 2 | | rowspan="5" |8 7 2 | ||
L/s = 4 | L/s = 4 | ||
| rowspan="5" |2L 3M 2s | | rowspan="5" |2L 3M 2s | ||
or 5L 2s | or 5L 2s | ||
| rowspan="5" |+4, +1, -3 | | rowspan="5" | +4, +1, -3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
!upmajor | !upmajor | ||
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|vm7 | |vm7 | ||
|P8 | |P8 | ||
| | |vm37v4 P415M26 vM6 | ||
| | |72<u>87</u>-<u>72</u>8 | ||
|8 7 | |8 7 (6) (3) 2 | ||
| | |varies | ||
| | |too many | ||
|- | |- | ||
!" | !" | ||
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|m7 | |m7 | ||
|P8 | |P8 | ||
| | |d5 vd5vm263 m37P41 | ||
| | |2<u>87</u> <u>3-6</u>87 | ||
| | |" | ||
| | |varies | ||
| | |too many | ||
|} | |} | ||
It would also be possible to define the modes based on the harmonic and subharmonic scales. For example, the downmixolydian scale could be P1 M2 vM3 P4 P5 vM6 vm7 P8, which contains a 4:5:6:7:9 chord. But this scale has two wolf 5ths. | It would also be possible to define the modes based on the harmonic and subharmonic scales. For example, the downmixolydian scale could be P1 M2 vM3 P4 P5 vM6 vm7 P8, which contains a 4:5:6:7:9 chord. But this scale has two wolf 5ths. | ||
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As can be seen from the [[:File:41-edo spiral.png|41-edo spiral of 5ths]], the upminor scale occupies two arms of the 41edo spiral of 5ths. Only one fuzzy note is needed to avoid wolf fifths. But these scales occupy three arms, and would need two fuzzy notes. | As can be seen from the [[:File:41-edo spiral.png|41-edo spiral of 5ths]], the upminor scale occupies two arms of the 41edo spiral of 5ths. Only one fuzzy note is needed to avoid wolf fifths. But these scales occupy three arms, and would need two fuzzy notes. | ||
These scales are harmonic or subharmonic series fragments. Equi-major is (8:9:10:11:12)/8 plus (9:10:11:12)/6. Equi-mid is (9:10:11:12)/9 + (8:9:10:11:12)/6. Equi-minor is 12/(12:11:10:9:8) + 18/(12:11:10:9). | |||
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!as chains of 5ths | !as chains of 5ths | ||
!as edosteps | !as edosteps | ||
!step sizes | !step sizes | ||
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! rowspan="3" |yala | ! rowspan="3" |yala | ||
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|P8 | |P8 | ||
|P152 vM263 ~74 | |P152 vM263 ~74 | ||
|<u>76</u>65-665 | |<u>76</u>65-665 | ||
| rowspan="3" |7 6 5 | | rowspan="3" |7 6 5 | ||
L/s = 1.4 | L/s = 1.4 | ||
| rowspan="3" |1L 4m 2s | |||
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| rowspan="3" | +3, -4, -3 | |||
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|~26 ^m37^4 P415 | |~26 ^m37^4 P415 | ||
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=== Dodecatonic === | === Dodecatonic === | ||
"The Flight of the Bumblebee" has simple 5-limit triads, but a scale that is clearly dodecatonic. The evenly-spaced 12edo scale is quite fitting for this piece. How would this piece translate to the Kite | "The Flight of the Bumblebee" has simple 5-limit triads, but a scale that is clearly dodecatonic. The evenly-spaced 12edo scale is quite fitting for this piece, nicely evoking the random movements of flying insects. How would this piece translate to the Kite Guitar? Poorly, because the scale would be either very awkward to play (all plain notes, lots of hopping between strings), or very uneven (steps of 2, 3, 4 and 5, L/s ratio of 2.5). The obvious uneven scale is the [[Duodene|harmonic duodene]], with 3 fuzzy notes to avoid wolf 5ths. | ||
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|A4^m2637 m7P415M2 vM2637vA4 | |A4^m2637 m7P415M2 vM2637vA4 | ||
| | |5 4 3 2 | ||
L/s = | L/s = 2.5 | ||
|}Is there an easily playable chromatic-sounding scale with nearly equal steps? Imagine such a scale expressed in edosteps. To avoid awkward string-hopping, we need three odd numbers and the rest even. If the even number is 8, we get the equipentatonic scales, because one-eighth of 41 is about 5. If the even number is 6, we get the equiheptatonic scales, because one-sixth of 41 is about 7. The next even number is 4, which makes a decatonic scale. | |} | ||
Is there an easily playable chromatic-sounding scale with nearly equal steps? See below. | |||
=== Decatonic - "Ten is the new twelve" === | |||
Is there an easily playable chromatic-sounding scale with nearly equal steps? Imagine such a scale expressed in edosteps. To avoid awkward string-hopping, we need three odd numbers and the rest even. If the even number is 8, we get the near-equipentatonic scales, because one-eighth of 41 is about 5. If the even number is 6, we get the near-equiheptatonic scales, because one-sixth of 41 is about 7. The next even number is 4, which makes a decatonic scale. | |||
The twin downminor scale consists of two downminor pentatonic scales, offset from each other by two frets. Mode #1 is (12:13:14:15:16:17:18)/12 plus (12:13:14:15:16)/8, except that prime 17 isn't well tuned. | The twin downminor scale consists of two downminor pentatonic scales, offset from each other by two frets. Mode #1 is (12:13:14:15:16:17:18)/12 plus (12:13:14:15:16)/8, except that prime 17 isn't well tuned. | ||
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|544-<u>43</u>4-5444 | |544-<u>43</u>4-5444 | ||
| rowspan="2" |5 4 3 | | rowspan="2" |5 4 3 | ||
L/s = 1.67 | L/s = 1.67 | ||
| rowspan="2" |2L 7m 1s | | rowspan="2" |2L 7m 1s | ||
or 2L 8s | or 2L 8s | ||
or 10L | |||
| rowspan="2" | +2, -4, -5 | | rowspan="2" | +2, -4, -5 | ||
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