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= Theory =
== Theory ==
The 9EDO scale, which divides the octave into nine equal parts each of 133+1/3 cents precisely, has the peculiar property of representing certain [[Harmonic_Limit|7-limit]] intervals almost exactly. A 7-limit version of 9EDO goes
The 9EDO scale, which divides the octave into nine equal parts each of 133+1/3 cents precisely, has the peculiar property of representing certain [[Harmonic_Limit|7-limit]] intervals almost exactly. A 7-limit version of 9EDO goes


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Here the characterizations are taken from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28program%29 Scala], which also describes the scale itself as "Pelog Nawanada: Sunda". Chords such as 1/1 - 7/6 - 49/36 - 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9EDO. The above scale generates the [[Just_intonation_subgroups|just intonation subgroup]] 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9EDO.
Here the characterizations are taken from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28program%29 Scala], which also describes the scale itself as "Pelog Nawanada: Sunda". Chords such as 1/1 - 7/6 - 49/36 - 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9EDO. The above scale generates the [[Just_intonation_subgroups|just intonation subgroup]] 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9EDO.


=Notation=
== Notation ==


9edo can be notated with conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. in two ways. The first preserves the <u>melodic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5.
9edo can be notated with conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. in two ways. The first preserves the <u>melodic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5.
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The second approach preserves the <u>harmonic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that the former is always further fifthwards on the chain of fifths than the latter. Sharp is lower in pitch than flat, and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim. While this approach may seem bizarre at first, interval arithmetic and chord names work as usual. Furthermore, conventional 12edo music can be directly translated to 9edo "on the fly".
The second approach preserves the <u>harmonic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that the former is always further fifthwards on the chain of fifths than the latter. Sharp is lower in pitch than flat, and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim. While this approach may seem bizarre at first, interval arithmetic and chord names work as usual. Furthermore, conventional 12edo music can be directly translated to 9edo "on the fly".


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
! style="text-align:center;" | [[degree]]
! [[degree]]
! style="text-align:center;" | [[cent]]s
! [[cent]]s
! style="text-align:center;" | Approximate <br>Ratios
! Approximate <br>Ratios
! colspan="2" style="text-align:center;" | Melodic notation
! colspan="2" | Melodic notation <br> Major wider than minor
Major wider than minor
! colspan="2" | Harmonic notation <br> Major narrower than minor
! colspan="2" style="text-align:center;" | Harmonic notation
Major narrower than minor
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 0
| 0
| style="text-align:center;" | 0
| 0
| style="text-align:center;" | 1/1
| 1/1
| style="text-align:center;" | perfect unison
| perfect unison
| style="text-align:center;" | D
| D
| style="text-align:center;" | perfect unison
| perfect unison
| style="text-align:center;" | D
| D
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 1
| 1
| style="text-align:center;" | 133
| 133
| style="text-align:center;" | 14/13, 13/12, 12/11
| 14/13, 13/12, 12/11
| style="text-align:center;" | minor 2nd
| minor 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | E
| E
| style="text-align:center;" | major 2nd
| major 2nd
| style="text-align:center;" | E
| E
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 2
| 2
| style="text-align:center;" | 267
| 267
| style="text-align:center;" | 7/6
| 7/6
| style="text-align:center;" | major 2nd, minor 3rd
| major 2nd, minor 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | E#, Fb
| E#, Fb
| style="text-align:center;" | minor 2nd, major 3rd
| minor 2nd, major 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | Eb, F#
| Eb, F#
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 3
| 3
| style="text-align:center;" | 400
| 400
| style="text-align:center;" | 5/4, 14/11, 9/7
| 5/4, 14/11, 9/7
| style="text-align:center;" | major 3rd
| major 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | F
| F
| style="text-align:center;" | minor 3rd
| minor 3rd
| style="text-align:center;" | F
| F
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 4
| 4
| style="text-align:center;" | 533
| 533
| style="text-align:center;" | 4/3, 11/8
| 4/3, 11/8
| style="text-align:center;" | perfect 4th
| perfect 4th
| style="text-align:center;" | G
| G
| style="text-align:center;" | perfect 4th
| perfect 4th
| style="text-align:center;" | G
| G
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 5
| 5
| style="text-align:center;" | 667
| 667
| style="text-align:center;" | 16/11, 3/2
| 16/11, 3/2
| style="text-align:center;" | perfect 5th
| perfect 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | A
| A
| style="text-align:center;" | perfect 5th
| perfect 5th
| style="text-align:center;" | A
| A
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 6
| 6
| style="text-align:center;" | 800
| 800
| style="text-align:center;" | 14/9, 11/7, 8/5
| 14/9, 11/7, 8/5
| style="text-align:center;" | minor 6th
| minor 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | B
| B
| style="text-align:center;" | major 6th
| major 6th
| style="text-align:center;" | B
| B
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 7
| 7
| style="text-align:center;" | 933
| 933
| style="text-align:center;" | 12/7
| 12/7
| style="text-align:center;" | major 6th, minor 7th
| major 6th, minor 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | B#, Cb
| B#, Cb
| style="text-align:center;" | minor 6th, major 7th
| minor 6th, major 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | Bb, C#
| Bb, C#
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 8
| 8
| style="text-align:center;" | 1067
| 1067
| style="text-align:center;" | 11/6, 13/7
| 11/6, 13/7
| style="text-align:center;" | major 7th
| major 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | C
| C
| style="text-align:center;" | minor 7th
| minor 7th
| style="text-align:center;" | C
| C
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 9
| 9
| style="text-align:center;" | 1200
| 1200
| style="text-align:center;" | 2/1
| 2/1
| style="text-align:center;" | octave
| octave
| style="text-align:center;" | D
| D
| style="text-align:center;" | octave
| octave
| style="text-align:center;" | D
| D
|}
|}


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[[:File:9ed2-001.svg|9ed2-001.svg]]
[[:File:9ed2-001.svg|9ed2-001.svg]]


=Commas=
== Commas ==
 
9 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val &lt; 9 14 21 25 31 33 |.)
9 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val &lt; 9 14 21 25 31 33 |.)


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable centerl-all left-2 right-3"
|-
|-
! | [[Ratios|Ratio]]
! [[Ratios|Ratio]]
! | [[Monzo]]
! [[Monzo]]
! | [[Cent]]s
! [[Cent]]s
![[Color notation/Temperament Names|Color Name]]
! [[Color notation/Temperament Names|Color Name]]
! | Name 1
! Name 1
! | Name 2
! Name 2
! | Name 3
! Name 3
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 27/25
| 27/25
| |<nowiki> | 0 3 -2 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 0 3 -2 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 133.24
| 133.24
| style="text-align:center;" |Gugu
| Gugu
| style="text-align:center;" | Large Limma
| Large Limma
| style="text-align:center;" | Large Semitone
| Large Semitone
| | Bug Comma
| Bug Comma
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 135/128
| 135/128
| |<nowiki> | -7 3 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -7 3 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 92.18
| 92.18
| style="text-align:center;" |Layobi
| Layobi
| style="text-align:center;" | Major Chroma
| Major Chroma
| style="text-align:center;" | Major Limma
| Major Limma
| | Pelogic Comma
| Pelogic Comma
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 16875/16384
| 16875/16384
| |<nowiki> | -14 3 4 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -14 3 4 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 51.12
| 51.12
| style="text-align:center;" |Laquadyo
| Laquadyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Negri Comma
| Negri Comma
| style="text-align:center;" | Double Augmentation Diesis
| Double Augmentation Diesis
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 128/125
| 128/125
| |<nowiki> | 7 0 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 7 0 -3 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 41.06
| 41.06
| style="text-align:center;" |Trigu
| Trigu
| style="text-align:center;" | Diesis
| Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" | Augmented Comma
| Augmented Comma
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 2109375/2097152
| 2109375/2097152
| |<nowiki> | -21 3 7 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -21 3 7 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 10.06
| 10.06
| style="text-align:center;" |Lasepyo
| Lasepyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Semicomma
| Semicomma
| style="text-align:center;" | Fokker Comma
| Fokker Comma
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 36/35
| 36/35
| |<nowiki> | 2 2 -1 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 2 2 -1 -1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 48.77
| 48.77
| style="text-align:center;" |Rugu
| Rugu
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Quarter Tone
| Septimal Quarter Tone
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 525/512
| 525/512
| |<nowiki> | -9 1 2 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -9 1 2 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 43.41
| 43.41
| style="text-align:center;" |Lazoyoyo
| Lazoyoyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Avicenna
| Avicenna
| style="text-align:center;" | Avicenna's Enharmonic Diesis
| Avicenna's Enharmonic Diesis
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 49/48
| 49/48
| |<nowiki> | -4 -1 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -4 -1 0 2 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 35.70
| 35.70
| style="text-align:center;" |Zozo
| Zozo
| style="text-align:center;" | Slendro Diesis
| Slendro Diesis
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 686/675
| 686/675
| |<nowiki> | 1 -3 -2 3 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 1 -3 -2 3 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 27.99
| 27.99
| style="text-align:center;" |Trizo-agugu
| Trizo-agugu
| style="text-align:center;" | Senga
| Senga
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 2430/2401
| 2430/2401
| |<nowiki> | 1 5 1 -4 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 1 5 1 -4 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 20.79
| 20.79
| style="text-align:center;" |Quadru-ayo
| Quadru-ayo
| style="text-align:center;" | Nuwell
| Nuwell
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 1728/1715
| 1728/1715
| |<nowiki> | 6 3 -1 -3 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 6 3 -1 -3 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 13.07
| 13.07
| style="text-align:center;" |Triru-agu
| Triru-agu
| style="text-align:center;" | Orwellisma
| Orwellisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Orwell Comma
| Orwell Comma
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 225/224
| 225/224
| |<nowiki> | -5 2 2 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 7.71
| 7.71
| style="text-align:center;" |Ruyoyo
| Ruyoyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Septimal Kleisma
| Septimal Kleisma
| style="text-align:center;" | Marvel Comma
| Marvel Comma
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 6144/6125
| 6144/6125
| |<nowiki> | 11 1 -3 -2 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 11 1 -3 -2 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 5.36
| 5.36
| style="text-align:center;" |Sarurutrigu
| Sarurutrigu
| style="text-align:center;" | Porwell
| Porwell
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 65625/65536
| 65625/65536
| |<nowiki> | -16 1 5 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -16 1 5 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 2.35
| 2.35
| style="text-align:center;" |Lazoquinyo
| Lazoquinyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Horwell
| Horwell
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 99/98
| 99/98
| |<nowiki> | -1 2 0 -2 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -1 2 0 -2 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 17.58
| 17.58
| style="text-align:center;" |Loruru
| Loruru
| style="text-align:center;" | Mothwellsma
| Mothwellsma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 121/120
| 121/120
| |<nowiki> | -3 -1 -1 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -3 -1 -1 0 2 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 14.37
| 14.37
| style="text-align:center;" |Lologu
| Lologu
| style="text-align:center;" | Biyatisma
| Biyatisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 176/175
| 176/175
| |<nowiki> | 4 0 -2 -1 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 4 0 -2 -1 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 9.86
| 9.86
| style="text-align:center;" |Lorugugu
| Lorugugu
| style="text-align:center;" | Valinorsma
| Valinorsma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 385/384
| 385/384
| |<nowiki> | -7 -1 1 1 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -7 -1 1 1 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 4.50
| 4.50
| style="text-align:center;" |Lozoyo
| Lozoyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Keenanisma
| Keenanisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 540/539
| 540/539
| |<nowiki> | 2 3 1 -2 -1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 2 3 1 -2 -1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 3.21
| 3.21
| style="text-align:center;" |Lururuyo
| Lururuyo
| style="text-align:center;" | Swetisma
| Swetisma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 91/90
| 91/90
| |<nowiki> | -1 -2 -1 1 0 1 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| -1 -2 -1 1 0 1 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 19.13
| 19.13
| style="text-align:center;" |Thozogu
| Thozogu
| style="text-align:center;" | Superleap
| Superleap
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|-
|-
| style="text-align:center;" | 676/675
| 676/675
| |<nowiki> | 2 -3 -2 0 0 2 </nowiki>&gt;
| {{Monzo| 2 -3 -2 0 0 2 }}
| style="text-align:right;" | 2.56
| 2.56
| style="text-align:center;" |Bithogu
| Bithogu
| style="text-align:center;" | Parizeksma
| Parizeksma
| style="text-align:center;" |  
|  
| |  
|  
|}
|}


=Images=
== Images ==


[[File:9edo_wheel.png|alt=9edo wheel.png|385x385px|9edo wheel.png]]
[[File:9edo_wheel.png|alt=9edo wheel.png|385x385px|9edo wheel.png]]


=Instruments=
== Instruments ==


[[File:IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|alt=IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|400px|IMG_2223-800x600.jpg]]
[[File:IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|alt=IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|400px|IMG_2223-800x600.jpg]]
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Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9 EDO with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte)
Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9 EDO with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte)


=Music=
== Music ==


<ul><li>[https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/tencaious-chorale-9-edo-studio-version Tenacious Chorale (only movement I is in 9-EDO)] by Stephen Weigel</li><li>[https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/in-our-own-little-worlds-9-edo Zones of Lasting Novelty] (Un12 2019) by Stephen Weigel; perf. Hans Gunter-Lock, Jacob Barton, and Stephen Weigel</li><li>[https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/gamelan-genesis-and-birth-9-edo Gamelan, Origin, Creation] by Stephen Weigel ([http://www.beostringquartet.com/ Beo String Quartet], dedicated to [[wikipedia:Lou_Harrison|Lou Harrison]])
<ul><li>[https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/tencaious-chorale-9-edo-studio-version Tenacious Chorale (only movement I is in 9-EDO)] by Stephen Weigel</li><li>[https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/in-our-own-little-worlds-9-edo Zones of Lasting Novelty] (Un12 2019) by Stephen Weigel; perf. Hans Gunter-Lock, Jacob Barton, and Stephen Weigel</li><li>[https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/gamelan-genesis-and-birth-9-edo Gamelan, Origin, Creation] by Stephen Weigel ([http://www.beostringquartet.com/ Beo String Quartet], dedicated to [[wikipedia:Lou_Harrison|Lou Harrison]])
</li><li>Nocturne in 9tet by [http://home.snafu.de/djwolf/WorksDescriptive.htm Daniel Wolf]</li><li>''[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Prelude9ET.mp3 Prelude in 9ET]'' by [[Aaron_Andrew_Hunt|Aaron Andrew Hunt]]</li><li>''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20110629_fts_e_guit_9et.mp3 Improvisation for Electric Guitar in 9 edo]'' by [http://www.chrisvaisvil.com Chris Vaisvil]</li><li>[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/08%20-%208.%209%20octave.mp3 Comets Over Flatland 8] by [[Randy_Winchester|Randy Winchester]]</li><li>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFCsCoaUO4 Nine tones per Octave (9-EDO / 9-TET)] by [[Ivor_Darreg|Ivor Darreg]]</li><li>[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1402 Chris Vaisvil] (in 9 and 18 edo simultaneously)</li><li>[http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/NewWorld.mp3 New World] by [[Carlo_Serafini|Carlo Serafini]] ([http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/f533be803cb9ed1efc23fc9e2db10c6f-167.html blog entry])</li><li>[https://soundcloud.com/santiagocosentino/interdimensional-train-ride Interdimensional Train Ride by Santiago Cosentino]</li></ul>
</li><li>Nocturne in 9tet by [http://home.snafu.de/djwolf/WorksDescriptive.htm Daniel Wolf]</li><li>''[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Prelude9ET.mp3 Prelude in 9ET]'' by [[Aaron_Andrew_Hunt|Aaron Andrew Hunt]]</li><li>''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20110629_fts_e_guit_9et.mp3 Improvisation for Electric Guitar in 9 edo]'' by [http://www.chrisvaisvil.com Chris Vaisvil]</li><li>[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/08%20-%208.%209%20octave.mp3 Comets Over Flatland 8] by [[Randy_Winchester|Randy Winchester]]</li><li>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFCsCoaUO4 Nine tones per Octave (9-EDO / 9-TET)] by [[Ivor_Darreg|Ivor Darreg]]</li><li>[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=1402 Chris Vaisvil] (in 9 and 18 edo simultaneously)</li><li>[http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/NewWorld.mp3 New World] by [[Carlo_Serafini|Carlo Serafini]] ([http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/f533be803cb9ed1efc23fc9e2db10c6f-167.html blog entry])</li><li>[https://soundcloud.com/santiagocosentino/interdimensional-train-ride Interdimensional Train Ride by Santiago Cosentino]</li></ul>


=Ear Training=
== Ear Training ==
 
9 EDO ear-training exercises by Alex Ness available [https://drive.google.com/a/playgroundsessions.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUamtVWEgyRFA5alU&usp=sharing#list here].
9 EDO ear-training exercises by Alex Ness available [https://drive.google.com/a/playgroundsessions.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUamtVWEgyRFA5alU&usp=sharing#list here].


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