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Ratios of 7: complete table
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| 1024/729 || 588.3 || <sub>5</sub>A3
| 1024/729 || 588.3 || <sub>5</sub>A3
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| 2729/512 || 611.7 || <sub>5</sub>d4
| 729/512 || 611.7 || <sub>5</sub>d4
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| 3/2 || 702.0 || <sub>5</sub>P4
| 3/2 || 702.0 || <sub>5</sub>P4
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Since we are using a pentatonic system of notation, and [[5edo]] represents the [[2.3.7 subgroup]] very well, we will investigate ratios with factors of 7 before ratios with a factor of 5. Just like in the FJS, we will be using [[64/63]] as our formal comma.
Since we are using a pentatonic system of notation, and [[5edo]] represents the [[2.3.7 subgroup]] very well, we will investigate ratios with factors of 7 before ratios with a factor of 5. Just like in the FJS, we will be using [[64/63]] as our formal comma.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Septimal ratios
|+ Ratios with a factor of 7
|-
|-
! Ratio !! Cents !! Interval name<br>(Pentatonic)
! Ratio !! Cents !! Interval name<br>(Pentatonic)
|-
|-
| 1/1 || 0.0 || <sub>5</sub>P1
| 64/63 || 27.3 || <sub>5</sub>P1<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 256/243 || 90.2 || <sub>5</sub>A1
| 28/27 || 63.0 || <sub>5</sub>A1<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 2187/2048 || 113.7 || <sub>5</sub>d2
| 243/224 || 140.9 || <sub>5</sub>d2<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 9/8 || 203.9 || <sub>5</sub>m2
| 8/7 || 231.2 || <sub>5</sub>m2<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 32/27 || 294.1 || <sub>5</sub>M2
| 7/6 || 266.9 || <sub>5</sub>M2<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 81/64 || 407.8 || <sub>5</sub>d3
| 9/7 || 435.1 || <sub>5</sub>d3<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 4/3 || 498.0 || <sub>5</sub>P3
| 21/16 || 470.8 || <sub>5</sub>P3<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 1024/729 || 588.3 || <sub>5</sub>A3
| 112/81 || 561.0 || <sub>5</sub>A3<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 2729/512 || 611.7 || <sub>5</sub>d4
| 81/56 || 639.0 || <sub>5</sub>d4<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 3/2 || 702.0 || <sub>5</sub>P4
| 32/21 || 729.2 || <sub>5</sub>P4<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 128/81 || 792.2 || <sub>5</sub>A4
| 14/9 || 764.9 || <sub>5</sub>A4<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 27/16 || 905.9 || <sub>5</sub>m5
| 12/7 || 933.1 || <sub>5</sub>m5<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 16/9 || 996.1 || <sub>5</sub>M5
| 7/4 || 968.8 || <sub>5</sub>M5<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 4096/2187 || 1086.3 || <sub>5</sub>A5
| 448/243 || 1059.1 || <sub>5</sub>A5<sup>7</sup>
|-
|-
| 243/128 || 1109.8 || <sub>5</sub>d6
| 27/14 || 1137.0 || <sub>5</sub>d6<sub>7</sub>
|-
|-
| 2/1 || 1200.0 || <sub>5</sub>P6
| 63/32 || 1200.0 || <sub>5</sub>P6<sup>7</sup>
|}
|}

Revision as of 08:17, 26 December 2025

Traditionally, we use a diatonic system of interval classification. This works well in the 5-limit and in meantone. However, in other systems like superpyth, a pentatonic system of classification based on the 2L 3s MOS scale may be preferred. We will develop a pentatonic version of the FJS, starting from the 3-limit and using formal commas to reach higher limits.

The 3-limit

We start by examining pythagorean intervals based on 2L 3s classification. Note that the subscript 5 before the interval name means it is pentatonic, and that a factor of 5 in the denominator of a ratio would be a subscript 5 after the interval name.

Pythagorean intervals
Ratio Cents Interval name
(Pentatonic)
1/1 0.0 5P1
256/243 90.2 5A1
2187/2048 113.7 5d2
9/8 203.9 5m2
32/27 294.1 5M2
81/64 407.8 5d3
4/3 498.0 5P3
1024/729 588.3 5A3
729/512 611.7 5d4
3/2 702.0 5P4
128/81 792.2 5A4
27/16 905.9 5m5
16/9 996.1 5M5
4096/2187 1086.3 5A5
243/128 1109.8 5d6
2/1 1200.0 5P6

In contrast to diatonic, 256/243 is a chroma interval, separating major and minor intervals of the same category. Interestingly, only pentatonic seconds and fifths now have major/minor, and augmented and diminished intervals come way eariler.

Ratios of 7

Since we are using a pentatonic system of notation, and 5edo represents the 2.3.7 subgroup very well, we will investigate ratios with factors of 7 before ratios with a factor of 5. Just like in the FJS, we will be using 64/63 as our formal comma.

Ratios with a factor of 7
Ratio Cents Interval name
(Pentatonic)
64/63 27.3 5P17
28/27 63.0 5A17
243/224 140.9 5d27
8/7 231.2 5m27
7/6 266.9 5M27
9/7 435.1 5d37
21/16 470.8 5P37
112/81 561.0 5A37
81/56 639.0 5d47
32/21 729.2 5P47
14/9 764.9 5A47
12/7 933.1 5m57
7/4 968.8 5M57
448/243 1059.1 5A57
27/14 1137.0 5d67
63/32 1200.0 5P67