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For example, 10:12:15 has numbers 10, 12 and 15, the odd limits of which are 5, 3 and 15, and thus the chord's otonal limit is 15. By contrast, 4:5:6's otonal limit is 5. 10:12:15 is sometimes considered more complex than 4:5:6, and the otonal limit is the measure that reflects that. However, 10:12:15 can be written as 1/(6:5:4), so the chord's utonal limit is 5, same as 4:5:6's otonal limit. Thus the ambitonal limits of both chords are 5, bringing them back to the same complexity level by recognizing each chord's more prominent otonal or utonal identity.  
For example, 10:12:15 has numbers 10, 12 and 15, the odd limits of which are 5, 3 and 15, and thus the chord's otonal limit is 15. By contrast, 4:5:6's otonal limit is 5. 10:12:15 is sometimes considered more complex than 4:5:6, and the otonal limit is the measure that reflects that. However, 10:12:15 can be written as 1/(6:5:4), so the chord's utonal limit is 5, same as 4:5:6's otonal limit. Thus the ambitonal limits of both chords are 5, bringing them back to the same complexity level by recognizing each chord's more prominent otonal or utonal identity.  


Note that the ambitonal limit is often equal to the intervallic limit, but not always, e.g. the chord 1-6/5-10/7-8/5 (left to readers as an exercise).
Note that the ambitonal limit is often equal to the intervallic limit, but not always, e.g. the chord 1–6/5–10/7–8/5 (left to readers as an exercise).


=== Proposed extensions ===
=== Proposed extensions ===
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The '''double odd limit''' or '''DOL''' of a ratio is simply the odd limit of each number in the ratio, with the higher one listed first. DOL (12/7) = (7, 3). The DOL is useful as a tiebreaker when comparing the complexity of two ratios with the same odd limit. For example, 50/49 and 49/48 are both odd limit 49. But DOL (50/49) = (49, 25) and DOL (49/48) = (49, 3). Since 3 < 25, 49/48 has a lower DOL.
The '''double odd limit''' or '''DOL''' of a ratio is simply the odd limit of each number in the ratio, with the higher one listed first. DOL (12/7) = (7, 3). The DOL is useful as a tiebreaker when comparing the complexity of two ratios with the same odd limit. For example, 50/49 and 49/48 are both odd limit 49. But DOL (50/49) = (49, 25) and DOL (49/48) = (49, 3). Since 3 < 25, 49/48 has a lower DOL.


The '''double integer limit''' or '''DIL''' of a ratio a/b is (b, a). For any interval, the voicing which has the smallest DIL is the '''all-odd voicing''' or '''AOV''', in which both the numerator and the denominator are odd. The AOV of a ratio is found by taking the odd limit of each number in the ratio, and combining them into a new ratio. For 12/7, the AOV is 7/3. For 3/2, the AOV is 3/1.
The '''double integer limit''' or '''DIL''' of a ratio ''a''/''b'' is (''b'', ''a''). For any interval, the voicing which has the smallest DIL is the '''all-odd voicing''' or '''AOV''', in which both the numerator and the denominator are odd. The AOV of a ratio is found by taking the odd limit of each number in the ratio, and combining them into a new ratio. For 12/7, the AOV is 7/3. For 3/2, the AOV is 3/1.


The concept of integer limit can be generalized to apply to a chord either intervallicly or otonally. Either way, the integer limit is the highest (final) number of the extended ratio.
The concept of integer limit can be generalized to apply to a chord either intervallicly or otonally. Either way, the integer limit is the highest (final) number of the extended ratio.
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==== Nonoctave equaves ====
==== Nonoctave equaves ====
The concept of odd limit can be generalized to prime three in a [[Nonoctave|non-octave]] ("no-twos") tritave-equivalent context such as [[Bohlen-Pierce]]. Just as the words even and odd refer to divisibility by two, mathematicians use the words '''threeven''' and '''throdd''' for divisibility by three. The '''throdd limit''' of a ratio is found by repeatedly dividing the numerator or denominator by three, and selecting the larger of the two numbers. Example: the throdd limit of 15/7 is 7. Other limits can be generalized too. The '''double throdd limit''' of 15/7 is (7,5). Its '''all-throdd voicing''' is 7/5. The 1/1 - 9/7 - 9/5 - 3/1 chord has extended ratio 35:45:63:105. Its '''intervallic throdd limit''' is 7, and its '''otonal throdd limit''' is 35.
The concept of odd limit can be generalized to prime three in a [[nonoctave|non-octave]] ("no-twos") tritave-equivalent context such as [[Bohlen–Pierce]]. Just as the words even and odd refer to divisibility by two, mathematicians use the words '''threeven''' and '''throdd''' for divisibility by three. The '''throdd limit''' of a ratio is found by repeatedly dividing the numerator or denominator by three, and selecting the larger of the two numbers. Example: the throdd limit of 15/7 is 7. Other limits can be generalized too. The '''double throdd limit''' of 15/7 is (7, 5). Its '''all-throdd voicing''' is 7/5. The 1–9/7–9/5–3/1 chord has extended ratio 35:45:63:105. Its '''intervallic throdd limit''' is 7, and its '''otonal throdd limit''' is 35.


==== Equave limit ====
==== Equave limit ====
[[Equave limit]]
See [[Equave limit]].


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Harmonic limit|''p''-limit]] - or prime [[harmonic limit]]
* [[Harmonic limit|''p''-limit]] or prime [[harmonic limit]]
* [[List of 47-odd-limit intervals]]
* [[List of 47-odd-limit intervals]]
* [[Shadow]] (based on integer limit)
* [[Shadow]] (a psychoacoustic effect based on integer limit)


== External links ==
== External links ==
* [http://tonalsoft.com/enc/l/limit.aspx Limit - Tonalsoft Encyclopedia of Microtonal Music Theory]
* [http://tonalsoft.com/enc/l/limit.aspx Limit Tonalsoft Encyclopedia of Microtonal Music Theory]


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