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{{Infobox Interval|ratio=1/0|cents=undefined}}
{{Infobox Interval}}


1/0 is an "interval" with an undefined numeric value. As a ratio, it can be taken to refer to the distance between any [[note]] and the note with a frequency of 0 Hz (equivalent to silence), or with an infinite frequency (which does not exist).   
1/0 is an "interval" with an undefined numeric value. As a ratio, it can be taken to refer to the distance between any [[note]] and the note with a frequency of 0 Hz (equivalent to silence), or with an infinite frequency (which does not exist).   
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Building a scale out of 7 of [[21edo]]'s sharp fifths (of about 742.857 cents) gives a scale that can be interpreted as a [[diatonic]] scale with large steps of size 5 and small steps of size -2 (note that this means "ascending" small steps are actually descending). When attempting to make an [[Antidiatonic|antidiatonic scale]] with the same relative step sizes, it always lands on the unison (as there are 2 large steps and 5 small steps, 5*2+(-2)*5 = 0), and as such, the sizes of the steps go to infinity - the [[generator]] for this scale is, in fact, 1/0, and the scale is represented by [[0edo]].
Building a scale out of 7 of [[21edo]]'s sharp fifths (of about 742.857 cents) gives a scale that can be interpreted as a [[diatonic]] scale with large steps of size 5 and small steps of size -2 (note that this means "ascending" small steps are actually descending). When attempting to make an [[Antidiatonic|antidiatonic scale]] with the same relative step sizes, it always lands on the unison (as there are 2 large steps and 5 small steps, 5*2+(-2)*5 = 0), and as such, the sizes of the steps go to infinity - the [[generator]] for this scale is, in fact, 1/0, and the scale is represented by [[0edo]].
{{Todo| review | explain its xenharmonic value }}
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Revision as of 07:46, 4 December 2023

Interval information
Ratio 1/0
Factorization n/a
Name(s) missing ? 

1/0 is an "interval" with an undefined numeric value. As a ratio, it can be taken to refer to the distance between any note and the note with a frequency of 0 Hz (equivalent to silence), or with an infinite frequency (which does not exist).


Mathematics

As a fraction, the value of 1/0 is undefined due to the fact that 0*n=0, causing all other intervals to vanish (as the resulting ratio can be simplified down to 1/0), which, if defined, causes absurdities.

For example, you could take a descending 1/0 from 440Hz to 0Hz, and then an ascending 1/0 from 0Hz to 660Hz, seemingly implying that a perfect fifth is the same as a unison. This problem is solved by declaring that 1/0 cannot be used to make any mathematical statements, leaving it mathematically undefined. However, it can be represented as a ratio between any number and 0.

In scale building

Building a scale out of 7 of 21edo's sharp fifths (of about 742.857 cents) gives a scale that can be interpreted as a diatonic scale with large steps of size 5 and small steps of size -2 (note that this means "ascending" small steps are actually descending). When attempting to make an antidiatonic scale with the same relative step sizes, it always lands on the unison (as there are 2 large steps and 5 small steps, 5*2+(-2)*5 = 0), and as such, the sizes of the steps go to infinity - the generator for this scale is, in fact, 1/0, and the scale is represented by 0edo.