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Hello! My name is Andrew and I like screwing around with xenharmony, especially notation.

~~Currently~~ experimenting with ~~anti-diatonic stuff like EDOs 9, 11, 13, 16, and 23~~.

At some point I plan to make a piece similar to [[wikipedia:Twelve_Microtonal_Etudes_for_Electronic_Music_Media|Easley Blackwood's 12 Etudes]] or [https://aaronandrewhunt.bandcamp.com/album/the-equal-tempered-keyboard Aaron Andrew Hunt's Equal-Tempered Keyboard], an "album" experimenting with a range of different EDO systems.

~~At some point I plan to make~~ a ~~piece similar to~~ [[~~wikipedia:Twelve_Microtonal_Etudes_for_Electronic_Music_Media~~|~~Easley Blackwood's 12 Etudes~~]] ~~or [https://aaronandrewhunt.bandcamp.com/album/the~~-~~equal~~-~~tempered-keyboard Aaron Andrew Hunt~~'~~s Equal-Tempered Keyboard], an "album" experimenting with a range of different EDO systems.~~

(Just wrote a 20-second piano intro in [[14edo|14-EDO]]--I think I've been thinking about it wrong this whole time!)

'''[https://akahler.w3spaces.com/ I have a website!!]'''

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==An idea for notation I had ==

Something I noticed in [[Ups and downs notation|regular EDO notation]], relying on Pythagorean names with an extra layer of accidentals, is that the Pythagorean major third in a lot of EDO systems doesn't match the [[5/4|just major third 5/4]]. So, with some thought from Just Intonation notations, I came up with something that I think might be promising.

Something I noticed in [[Ups and downs notation|regular EDO notation]], relying on [[Pythagorean]] names with an extra layer of accidentals, is that the [[81/64|Pythagorean major third]] in a lot of EDO systems doesn't match the [[5/4|just major third 5/4]]. So, with some thought from Just Intonation notations, I came up with something that I think might be promising.

In essence, instead of solely relying on Pythagorean names and arrows for edosteps in between (which can get unwieldy in larger EDOs, e.g. [[72edo#Intervals|72-EDO]]), I considered giving the [[syntonic comma]] ~~priority~~. If your ~~EDO has a different pitch for the just major third~~ and ~~the Pythagorean major third, then of course,~~ it ~~has a syntonic comma~~ that ~~hasn't been tempered out. This won't change anything for EDOs with~~ a ~~syntonic comma less than or equal to one step, of course, but it could have an effect on even "sharper" systems like 37-~~EDO.

In essence, instead of solely relying on Pythagorean names and arrows for edosteps in between (which can get unwieldy in larger EDOs, e.g. [[72edo#Intervals|72-EDO]]), I considered giving the [[syntonic comma]] a single symbol instead. That way you can emphasize the [[5-limit]] in your compositions more easily, and it will stay that way when directly read in a different EDO.

~~The~~ syntonic comma ~~can be represented by~~ a ~~sort~~ of ~~slash~~-~~like symbol Bosanquet used in his notation~~.

If your EDO has a different pitch for the just major third and the Pythagorean major third, then of course, it has a syntonic comma that hasn't been tempered out. This won't change much notation-wise for EDOs with a syntonic comma of 0 or 1 step, of course, but it could have an effect on even "sharper" systems like 37-EDO with a larger comma.

Single edosteps are still notated with arrows: '''^''' and '''v'''.

The syntonic comma can be represented by slashes: '''/''' and '''\'''. Single edosteps are still notated with arrows: '''^''' and '''v'''.

Here's a full example in [[37edo|37-EDO]]:

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For systems with a negative syntonic comma (most often in ~~anti-diatonic and 7''n''~~-~~EDO~~ systems) use ''')''' and '''(''' instead of '''/''' and '''\'''~~, using~~ <u>harmonic notation</u>.

For systems with a negative syntonic comma (most often in sub-meantone systems), use ''')''' and '''(''' instead of '''/''' and '''\'''.

Use <u>harmonic notation</u> for anti-diatonic systems.

An example in [[13edo|13-EDO]]:

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~~''I have also devised custom accidentals for~~ quarter tones in ~~both diatonic and anti-diatonic~~ systems, ~~but the image uploading process is being weird so I'll have to figure that out at some point~~.''

For systems with describable quarter tones, you can optionally use quarter tone notation. Though for many systems ([[24edo|24]], [[31edo|31]]), the syntonic comma notation makes it redundant; perhaps it could be of use in larger systems like [[41edo|41]], [[48edo|48]], or [[72edo|72]].

== Cloudy scales==

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 Hello! My name is Andrew and I like screwing around with xenharmony, especially notation.
-Currently experimenting with anti-diatonic stuff like EDOs 9, 11, 13, 16, and 23.
+At some point I plan to make a piece similar to [[wikipedia:Twelve_Microtonal_Etudes_for_Electronic_Music_Media|Easley Blackwood's 12 Etudes]] or [https://aaronandrewhunt.bandcamp.com/album/the-equal-tempered-keyboard Aaron Andrew Hunt's Equal-Tempered Keyboard], an "album" experimenting with a range of different EDO systems.
-At some point I plan to make a piece similar to [[wikipedia:Twelve_Microtonal_Etudes_for_Electronic_Music_Media|Easley Blackwood's 12 Etudes]] or [https://aaronandrewhunt.bandcamp.com/album/the-equal-tempered-keyboard Aaron Andrew Hunt's Equal-Tempered Keyboard], an "album" experimenting with a range of different EDO systems.
+(Just wrote a 20-second piano intro in [[14edo|14-EDO]]--I think I've been thinking about it wrong this whole time!)
 '''[https://akahler.w3spaces.com/ I have a website!!]'''
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 ==An idea for notation I had ==
-Something I noticed in [[Ups and downs notation|regular EDO notation]], relying on Pythagorean names with an extra layer of accidentals, is that the Pythagorean major third in a lot of EDO systems doesn't match the [[5/4|just major third 5/4]]. So, with some thought from Just Intonation notations, I came up with something that I think might be promising.
+Something I noticed in [[Ups and downs notation|regular EDO notation]], relying on [[Pythagorean]] names with an extra layer of accidentals, is that the [[81/64|Pythagorean major third]] in a lot of EDO systems doesn't match the [[5/4|just major third 5/4]]. So, with some thought from Just Intonation notations, I came up with something that I think might be promising.
-In essence, instead of solely relying on Pythagorean names and arrows for edosteps in between (which can get unwieldy in larger EDOs, e.g. [[72edo#Intervals|72-EDO]]), I considered giving the [[syntonic comma]] priority. If your EDO has a different pitch for the just major third and the Pythagorean major third, then of course, it has a syntonic comma that hasn't been tempered out. This won't change anything for EDOs with a syntonic comma less than or equal to one step, of course, but it could have an effect on even "sharper" systems like 37-EDO.
+In essence, instead of solely relying on Pythagorean names and arrows for edosteps in between (which can get unwieldy in larger EDOs, e.g. [[72edo#Intervals|72-EDO]]), I considered giving the [[syntonic comma]] a single symbol instead. That way you can emphasize the [[5-limit]] in your compositions more easily, and it will stay that way when directly read in a different EDO.
-The syntonic comma can be represented by a sort of slash-like symbol Bosanquet used in his notation.
+If your EDO has a different pitch for the just major third and the Pythagorean major third, then of course, it has a syntonic comma that hasn't been tempered out. This won't change much notation-wise for EDOs with a syntonic comma of 0 or 1 step, of course, but it could have an effect on even "sharper" systems like 37-EDO with a larger comma.
-Single edosteps are still notated with arrows: '''^''' and '''v'''.
+The syntonic comma can be represented by slashes: '''/''' and '''\'''. Single edosteps are still notated with arrows: '''^''' and '''v'''.
 Here's a full example in [[37edo|37-EDO]]:
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 |D
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-For systems with a negative syntonic comma (most often in anti-diatonic and 7''n''-EDO systems) use ''')''' and '''(''' instead of '''/''' and '''\''', using <u>harmonic notation</u>.
+For systems with a negative syntonic comma (most often in sub-meantone systems), use ''')''' and '''(''' instead of '''/''' and '''\'''.
+Use <u>harmonic notation</u> for anti-diatonic systems.
 An example in [[13edo|13-EDO]]:
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 |D
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-''I have also devised custom accidentals for quarter tones in both diatonic and anti-diatonic systems, but the image uploading process is being weird so I'll have to figure that out at some point.''
+For systems with describable quarter tones, you can optionally use quarter tone notation. Though for many systems ([[24edo|24]], [[31edo|31]]), the syntonic comma notation makes it redundant; perhaps it could be of use in larger systems like [[41edo|41]], [[48edo|48]], or [[72edo|72]].
 == Cloudy scales==