Talk:MOS naming: Difference between revisions

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:: I do find "enlarged" and "reduced" appealing. Maybe "generating" can be used instead of "perfect". This would eliminate any need for a ''mos-'' prefix.

:: The & and @ are supposed to be accidentals that are readable on a staff (when stylized) and distinct enough. [[User:Inthar|Inthar]] ([[User talk:Inthar|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

::: Thinking in terms of potential translations to other languages, and economizing on the syllables, maybe ''real/true'', ''general'', or just use ''gen'' itself as a word.

::: On &/@ - that may be so, but so are +/- and Unicode support for stylizing inline text isn't coming anytime soon. I would strongly suggest A+/B- or */` (A*/`B). [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 18:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

::: I'll add that the prefixes should probably stay, as they could be used for the traditional harmonic system (#/b/maj/min/aug/dim/perf), maybe call that THARMS [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 19:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Suggested compromise:

* Generator: ''perfect'' (e.g. perfect mos4th, Pmos4)

* Smaller interval class (when not the generator's): ''small'' (e.g. small mos3rd, smos3)

* Larger interval class (when not the generator's): ''large'' (e.g. large mos3rd, Lmos3)

* "small" minus chroma or "perfect" minus chroma: ''diminished'' (e.g. diminished mos3rd, dmos3)

* "large" plus chroma or "perfect" plus chroma: ''augmented'' (e.g. augmented mos3rd, Amos3)

[[User:Inthar|Inthar]] ([[User talk:Inthar|talk]]) 22:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

: Hmm, there's still a potential issue in confusing aug and dim if you use an inverted harmonic system. I was thinking of making an interval table in sephiroid displaying both TAMNAMS and the inverted traditional intervals, as proposed by Komorsky. At present, it would map a diminished to an augmented and vice-versa. Enlarged 3rd (E3), large 3rd (L3), small 3rd (s3), reduced 3rd (r3) should work to distinguish them. [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 23:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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 :: I do find "enlarged" and "reduced" appealing. Maybe "generating" can be used instead of "perfect". This would eliminate any need for a ''mos-'' prefix.
 :: The & and @ are supposed to be accidentals that are readable on a staff (when stylized) and distinct enough. [[User:Inthar|Inthar]] ([[User talk:Inthar|talk]]) 17:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
+::: Thinking in terms of potential translations to other languages, and economizing on the syllables, maybe ''real/true'', ''general'', or just use ''gen'' itself as a word.
+::: On &/@ - that may be so, but so are +/- and Unicode support for stylizing inline text isn't coming anytime soon. I would strongly suggest A+/B- or */` (A*/`B). [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 18:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
+::: I'll add that the prefixes should probably stay, as they could be used for the traditional harmonic system (#/b/maj/min/aug/dim/perf), maybe call that THARMS [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 19:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
+Suggested compromise:
+* Generator: ''perfect'' (e.g. perfect mos4th, Pmos4)
+* Smaller interval class (when not the generator's): ''small'' (e.g. small mos3rd, smos3)
+* Larger interval class (when not the generator's): ''large'' (e.g. large mos3rd, Lmos3)
+* "small" minus chroma or "perfect" minus chroma: ''diminished'' (e.g. diminished mos3rd, dmos3)
+* "large" plus chroma or "perfect" plus chroma: ''augmented'' (e.g. augmented mos3rd, Amos3)
+[[User:Inthar|Inthar]] ([[User talk:Inthar|talk]]) 22:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
+: Hmm, there's still a potential issue in confusing aug and dim if you use an inverted harmonic system. I was thinking of making an interval table in sephiroid displaying both TAMNAMS and the inverted traditional intervals, as proposed by Komorsky. At present, it would map a diminished to an augmented and vice-versa. Enlarged 3rd (E3), large 3rd (L3), small 3rd (s3), reduced 3rd (r3) should work to distinguish them. [[User:Ayceman|Ayceman]] ([[User talk:Ayceman|talk]]) 23:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)