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'''125/121''', the '''jug comma''' is a [[11-limit]] (also 5.11 [[subgroup]]) [[comma]] of about 56.3 [[cent]]s. It is the difference between [[5/4]] and a stack of 2 [[11/10]]s or [[25/22]]s.
'''125/121''', the '''jug comma''' is a [[11-limit]] (also 5.11 [[subgroup]]) [[medium comma]] of about 56.3 [[cent]]s. It is the difference between [[5/4]] and a stack of 2 [[11/10]]s or [[25/22]]s.
 
== Etymology ==
The name for this comma was coined in 2024 by [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]], based on the name of [[juggernaut]] temperament.


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma in the 2.5.11 subgroup results in the [[jug]] temperament, generated by a [[meantone]]-like major second of [[11/10]]~[[25/22]], and in the [[nonoctave]] 5.7.11 subgroup it results in the no-twos-or-threes [[juggernaut]] temperament, with a period that is the square root of 5 ([[11/5]]~[[25/11]]) and a generator of ~[[7/5]].
Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 '''jug temperament'''. Tempering out this comma in the 2.5.11 subgroup results in the rank-2 '''jugular temperament''', generated by a [[meantone]]-like major second of [[11/10]]~[[25/22]], and in the no-twos-or-threes 5.7.11 subgroup it results in the [[nonoctave]] rank-2 [[juggernaut]] temperament, with a period that is the [[2ed5|square root of 5]] (representing [[11/5]]~[[25/11]]) and a generator of ~[[7/5]]. 125/121 is also tempered out in [[11-limit]] [[flattone]], which can be viewed as a [[weak extension]] of jugular temperament slicing the generator into 2 fifths.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Medium comma]]
* [[Medium comma]]
[[Category:Jug]]
[[Category:Jug]]
[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]

Latest revision as of 06:57, 3 November 2024

Interval information
Ratio 125/121
Factorization 53 × 11-2
Monzo [0 0 3 0 -2
Size in cents 56.30526¢
Name jug comma
Color name lulutriyo unison, 1uuy31, lulutriyo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{AA1}^{5,5,5}_{11,11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 13.8846
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 13.9316
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 37
Comma size medium
S-expression S9⋅S102
Open this interval in xen-calc

125/121, the jug comma is a 11-limit (also 5.11 subgroup) medium comma of about 56.3 cents. It is the difference between 5/4 and a stack of 2 11/10s or 25/22s.

Etymology

The name for this comma was coined in 2024 by CompactStar, based on the name of juggernaut temperament.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit results in the rank-4 jug temperament. Tempering out this comma in the 2.5.11 subgroup results in the rank-2 jugular temperament, generated by a meantone-like major second of 11/10~25/22, and in the no-twos-or-threes 5.7.11 subgroup it results in the nonoctave rank-2 juggernaut temperament, with a period that is the square root of 5 (representing 11/5~25/11) and a generator of ~7/5. 125/121 is also tempered out in 11-limit flattone, which can be viewed as a weak extension of jugular temperament slicing the generator into 2 fifths.

See also