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--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 23:33, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 23:33, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
: Not sure, sorry. I didn't come up with the concept and I'm not a fan of it. It just bothered me that it was never explained anywhere. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 04:27, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
:: One theory is that it uses the Minkowski lattice basis, explained in the ''rank-3 temperament'' page. Still it's not fundamentally different from the mapping as we've discussed on Discord, so this piece of information is a little bit redundant without providing much insight. I remember a few of us have proposed removing it from the temp catalog pages. What do you think? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 12:18, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
::: I agree it adds little value (possibly negative value), and so I support not including it in a temperament template. But I believe it's generally not a good idea to straight up delete information from the wiki that someone might find useful. So perhaps we could consider centralizing all the existing map-to-lattice information in one place? --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 16:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
:::: Right. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 16:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

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Questions

You've taken this

g₁
0 1 2 3
g₂ -3 7/1
-2
-1
0 2/1 3/1
1 5/1

and rotated/flipped/sheared it, converting it to this

g₁
-1 0 1 2 3
g₂ 0 2/1 7/1
1 5/1 3/1

This is a valid lattice, but why is it better than the original one, or any of the other possibilities? What is the exact method for finding the best lattice?

--TallKite (talk) 23:33, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Not sure, sorry. I didn't come up with the concept and I'm not a fan of it. It just bothered me that it was never explained anywhere. --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 04:27, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
One theory is that it uses the Minkowski lattice basis, explained in the rank-3 temperament page. Still it's not fundamentally different from the mapping as we've discussed on Discord, so this piece of information is a little bit redundant without providing much insight. I remember a few of us have proposed removing it from the temp catalog pages. What do you think? FloraC (talk) 12:18, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
I agree it adds little value (possibly negative value), and so I support not including it in a temperament template. But I believe it's generally not a good idea to straight up delete information from the wiki that someone might find useful. So perhaps we could consider centralizing all the existing map-to-lattice information in one place? --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 16:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Right. FloraC (talk) 16:43, 25 March 2022 (UTC)