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This 11-limit interval has been completely neglected, and currently isn't even listed on the Huygens-Fokker Foundation's interval list. Oh well, looks like I'm the one who gets to name it.
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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Icon =
| Name = Alpharabian infra-augmented prime, Alpharabian infra-apotomic quartertone, undecimal major diesis
| Ratio = 729/704
| Color name = L1u1, lalu 1sn, Lalu comma
| Monzo = -6 6 0 0 -1
| Comma = yes
| Cents = 60.41206
| Name = Alpharabian infraaugmented prime, <br>Alpharabian infraapotomic quartertone, <br> undecimal major diesis
| Color name =
| FJS name =
| Sound =  
}}
}}


'''729/704''', the '''Alpharabian infraaugmented prime''' or '''Alpharabian infraapotomic quartertone''' is a type of quartertone that differs from [[33/32]] by [[243/242]], and is itself the interval left over after subtracting 33/32 from [[2187/2048]].  While many may be accustomed to thinking of 33/32 and 729/704 as "semiaugmented primes", this analysis is only completely accurate when 243/242 is tempered out.  This interval differs from the simpler [[28/27]] by the [[symbiotic comma]].  This interval is referred to in the [http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/intervals.html Huygens-Fokker Foundation's interval list] as the '''undecimal major diesis'''.
'''729/704''', conventionally named the '''undecimal major diesis'''<ref>[http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/intervals.html Huygens-Fokker Foundation's interval list]</ref>, is a [[medium comma]] measuring about 60.4{{cent}}. In [[Alpharabian tuning]], it is called the '''Alpharabian infra-augmented prime''' or '''Alpharabian infra-apotomic quartertone'''.
 
It is a type of quartertone that differs from [[33/32]] by [[243/242]], and is itself the interval left over after subtracting 33/32 from [[2187/2048]].  While many may be accustomed to thinking of 33/32 and 729/704 as "semiaugmented primes", this analysis is only completely accurate when 243/242 is tempered out.  This interval differs from the simpler [[28/27]] by the [[symbiotic comma]].  Furthermore, three instances of this interval fall short of [[10/9]] by a comma that is only a little over a cent in size.
 
== Sagittal notation ==
In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | (!) }} and is called the '''11 large diesis''', or '''11L''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 11/1 (equiv. 11/8), as for example in F-B{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | (!) }}. The upward version is called '''1/11L''' or '''11L up''' and is represented by {{sagittal| (|) }}.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[352/243]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[1408/729]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[Alpharabian tuning]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


[[Category:11-limit]]
== References ==
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
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[[Category:Quartertone]]
[[Category:Alpharabian]]
[[Category:Alpharabian]]
[[Category:Commas named after their interval size]]

Latest revision as of 19:12, 8 June 2025

Interval information
Ratio 729/704
Factorization 2-6 × 36 × 11-1
Monzo [-6 6 0 0 -1
Size in cents 60.41206¢
Names Alpharabian infra-augmented prime,
Alpharabian infra-apotomic quartertone,
undecimal major diesis
Color name L1u1, lalu 1sn, Lalu comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}_{11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 18.9692
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 19.0196
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 41
Comma size medium
S-expression S92⋅S10
Open this interval in xen-calc

729/704, conventionally named the undecimal major diesis[1], is a medium comma measuring about 60.4 ¢. In Alpharabian tuning, it is called the Alpharabian infra-augmented prime or Alpharabian infra-apotomic quartertone.

It is a type of quartertone that differs from 33/32 by 243/242, and is itself the interval left over after subtracting 33/32 from 2187/2048. While many may be accustomed to thinking of 33/32 and 729/704 as "semiaugmented primes", this analysis is only completely accurate when 243/242 is tempered out. This interval differs from the simpler 28/27 by the symbiotic comma. Furthermore, three instances of this interval fall short of 10/9 by a comma that is only a little over a cent in size.

Sagittal notation

In the Sagittal system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal and is called the 11 large diesis, or 11L for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 11/1 (equiv. 11/8), as for example in F-B⁠ ⁠. The upward version is called 1/11L or 11L up and is represented by .

See also

References