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One way to play | One way to play [[72edo]] on a [[36edo]] [[guitar]] is to tune each pair of adjacent strings 450 [[cents]] apart. The equivalent tuning on a grid controller would be for notes to rise by 2\72 (33.3 cents) along each column and by 27\72 (450 cents) along each row. | ||
The resulting range across six strings is 2250 cents -- close to the 2-octave spread on a | The resulting range across six strings is 2250 cents -- close to the 2-octave spread on a [[12edo]] guitar in standard tuning. | ||
72-edo approximates the 11-limit astoundingly well, and is quite good in higher limits too. 36-edo, by contrast, has a 5:4 that's 14 cents sharp (identical to 12-edo's), and an 11:8 that's 15 cents sharp. | 72-edo approximates the 11-limit astoundingly well, and is quite good in higher limits too. 36-edo, by contrast, has a 5:4 that's 14 cents sharp (identical to 12-edo's), and an 11:8 that's 15 cents sharp. | ||
But whereas a 72-edo guitar would not be, a 36-edo guitar is playable. Neil Haverstick does it. | But whereas a 72-edo guitar would not be, a 36-edo guitar is playable. [[Neil Haverstick]] does it. | ||
Among the possible [[skip fretting]] systems for 72-edo, the 27\72 x 2\72 (or equivalently, 4.5\12 x 1\36) system is especially convenient because every ratio in the 31-limit group sans 21 can be played within a block 4 strings wide by | Among the possible [[skip fretting]] systems for 72-edo, the 27\72 x 2\72 (or equivalently, 4.5\12 x 1\36) system is especially convenient because every ratio in the 31-limit group sans 21 can be played within a block 4 strings wide by 17 frets long. (17 frets of 36-edo is shorter than 6 frets of 12-edo.) | ||
The same | The same advantage holds for the 29\72 x 2\72 skip-fretting system, but fourths on adjacent strings are hard to play in that system, because the player must bend one note while playing an adjacent string at the same fret. | ||
Here is where all the | Here is where all the [[prime]] intervals through 31 lie: | ||
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From these, the location of any compound | From these, the location of any compound interval N can be added by vector-summing the string-fret positions of N's factors. See [[Skip fretting system 48 2 13]] for details on how that's done. | ||
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Latest revision as of 04:52, 27 April 2025
One way to play 72edo on a 36edo guitar is to tune each pair of adjacent strings 450 cents apart. The equivalent tuning on a grid controller would be for notes to rise by 2\72 (33.3 cents) along each column and by 27\72 (450 cents) along each row.
The resulting range across six strings is 2250 cents -- close to the 2-octave spread on a 12edo guitar in standard tuning.
72-edo approximates the 11-limit astoundingly well, and is quite good in higher limits too. 36-edo, by contrast, has a 5:4 that's 14 cents sharp (identical to 12-edo's), and an 11:8 that's 15 cents sharp.
But whereas a 72-edo guitar would not be, a 36-edo guitar is playable. Neil Haverstick does it.
Among the possible skip fretting systems for 72-edo, the 27\72 x 2\72 (or equivalently, 4.5\12 x 1\36) system is especially convenient because every ratio in the 31-limit group sans 21 can be played within a block 4 strings wide by 17 frets long. (17 frets of 36-edo is shorter than 6 frets of 12-edo.)
The same advantage holds for the 29\72 x 2\72 skip-fretting system, but fourths on adjacent strings are hard to play in that system, because the player must bend one note while playing an adjacent string at the same fret.
Here is where all the prime intervals through 31 lie:
| note | fretboard position |
|---|---|
| 0 steps = 1 % 1 | string 0 fret 0 |
| 72 steps = 2 % 1 | string 2 fret 9 |
| 42 steps = 3 % 2 | string 2 fret - 6 |
| 23 steps = 5 % 4 | string 1 fret - 2 |
| 58 steps = 7 % 4 | string 2 fret 2 |
| 12 steps = 9 % 8 | string 0 fret 6 |
| 33 steps =11 % 8 | string 1 fret 3 |
| 50 steps =13 % 8 | string 2 fret - 2 |
| 65 steps =15 % 8 | string 3 fret -8 |
| 6 steps =17 % 16 | string 0 fret 3 |
| 18 steps =19 % 16 | string 0 fret 9 |
| 28 steps =21 % 16 | string 0 fret 14, or string 2 fret -13, or bend up 1\72 from string 1 fret 0. |
| 38 steps =23 % 16 | string 2 fret -8 |
| 46 steps =25 % 16 | string 2 fret -4 |
| 54 steps =27 % 16 | string 2 fret 0 |
| 62 steps =29 % 16 | string 2 fret 4 |
| 69 steps =31 % 16 | string 3 fret -6 |
From these, the location of any compound interval N can be added by vector-summing the string-fret positions of N's factors. See Skip fretting system 48 2 13 for details on how that's done.