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A quick summary is shown below. | A quick summary is shown below. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|+The Vidarines in 1619edo (named and unnamed) | |+ style="font-size: 105%;" | The Vidarines in 1619edo (named and unnamed) | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Temperament | |||
! Generator<br>associated ratio | |||
! Completing comma | |||
|- | |- | ||
|Decigrave (45 & 1619) | | Keenanose (270 & 1619) | ||
|66/65 ~ 65/64 | | 385/384 | ||
|{{monzo|23 5 13 -23 1 0}} | | 151263/151250 | ||
|- | |||
| Decigrave (45 & 1619) | |||
| 66/65 ~ 65/64 | |||
| {{monzo|23 5 13 -23 1 0}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
|Moulin (494 & 1619) | | Moulin (494 & 1619) | ||
|13/11 | | 13/11 | ||
|91125/91091 | | 91125/91091 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|46 & 1619 | | 46 & 1619 | ||
|3328/3087 | | 3328/3087 | ||
|{{monzo|-18 9 -2 8 -3 -1}} | | {{monzo| -18 9 -2 8 -3 -1 }} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|178 & 1619 | | 178 & 1619 | ||
|4429568/4084101 | | 4429568/4084101 | ||
|{{monzo|-29 10 2 12 -3 -4}} | | {{monzo| -29 10 2 12 -3 -4 }} | ||
|- | |- | ||
|224 & 1619 | | 224 & 1619 | ||
|256/175 | | 256/175 | ||
|18753525/18743296 | | 18753525/18743296 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|764 & 1619 | | 764 & 1619 | ||
|12375/8918 | | 12375/8918 | ||
|52734375/52706752 | | 52734375/52706752 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|901 & 1619 | | 901 & 1619 | ||
|104/99 | | 104/99 | ||
|34875815625/34843787264 | | 34875815625/34843787264 | ||
|} | |} | ||
While [[abigail]] is a member of the vidarines, 1619edo does not support it because abigail is a period-2 temperament, and 1619 is an odd number. | While [[abigail]] is a member of the vidarines, 1619edo does not support it because abigail is a period-2 temperament, and 1619 is an odd number. | ||
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== Selected intervals == | == Selected intervals == | ||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | {| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | ||
|+ style=white-space:nowrap | Table of intervals in 1619edo | |+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | Table of intervals in 1619edo | ||
|- | |||
! Step | ! Step | ||
! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! Ratio | ! Ratio | ||
! Name | ! Name* | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
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| septimal subminor third, grave minor third | | septimal subminor third, grave minor third | ||
|- | |- | ||
|744 | | 744 | ||
|551.451 | | 551.451 | ||
|11/8 | | 11/8 | ||
|11th harmonic, undecimal superfourth | | 11th harmonic, undecimal superfourth | ||
|- | |- | ||
|1134 | | 1134 | ||
|840.519 | | 840.519 | ||
|13/8 | | 13/8 | ||
|13th harmonic, tridecimal neutral sixth | | 13th harmonic, tridecimal neutral sixth | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1619 | | 1619 | ||
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| perfect octave | | perfect octave | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki>* | <nowiki />* Named in accordance to their most just 13-limit counterpart using the names accepted on the wiki. | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
{ | {{comma basis begin}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2.3 | | 2.3 | ||
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| 0.0315 | | 0.0315 | ||
| 4.26 | | 4.26 | ||
{{comma basis end}} | |||
=== Rank-2 temperaments === | === Rank-2 temperaments === | ||
{ | {{rank-2 begin}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
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| 4/3 | | 4/3 | ||
| [[Counterschismic]] | | [[Counterschismic]] | ||
{{rank-2 end}} | |||
{{orf}} | |||
[[Category:Quartismic]] | [[Category:Quartismic]] | ||
{{Todo| review }} | {{Todo| review }} |
Revision as of 05:48, 16 November 2024
← 1618edo | 1619edo | 1620edo → |
Theory
1619edo is excellent in the 13-limit, where it tempers out 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655, 78125/78078, and 117649/117612. It also notably tempers out quartisma (117440512/117406179) and 123201/123200.
1619edo tunes keenanisma very finely, to 6 steps, and can use it as a microchroma. 1619edo has 7/6 on 360th step, a highly divisible number, 27/25 on 180th, and 33/32 on 72nd as a consequence of tempering out the commas. This means that 72ed33/32 is virtually equivalent to 1619edo. When it comes to using 33/32 as the generator, 1619edo supports the ravine temperament, which tempers out 196625/196608, 200000/199927, 2912000/2910897, and 3764768/3764475.
Since 33/32 is close to 1\45, 7\6 is close to 1\9, and 385/384 is close to 1\270, 1619edo can be thought of as 1620edo where one step was extracted and all others were moved into a more harmonically just position. It achieves this because 1620edo is contorted 270edo in the 11-limit, and its 13/8 is on the flat side coming from 324edo, and thus when it is octave stretched, steps sharpen enough to arrive at 1619edo's 13-limit excellence.
1619edo supports a very precise rank two temperament, 19 & 1619, which uses 6/5 as a generator and has a comma basis 4375/4374, 91125/91091, 196625/196608, and 54925000/54908469.
1619edo supports the keenanose temperament, which has comma basis 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655, and 151263/151250. Keenanisma is the generator in the keenanose temperament, 270 & 1619, in which it highlights the relationship between 270 keenanismas and the octave. It also achieves this since 270 × 6 = 1620, and 1619 is 1 short of that and also excellent in the 13-limit.
Another temperament which highlights the interval relationships in 1619edo is 45 & 1619, called decigrave, since 10 steps make a 7/6, which is referred to as the grave minor third sometimes. It has a comma basis 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655, [23 5 13 -23 1 0⟩ in the 13-limit. Its generator is 36 steps, which represents 65/64 and 66/65 tempered together, and 2 of them make 33/32. 5 of them make 27/25, and 10 of them make 7/6.
1619edo supports the 494 & 1619 temperament called moulin, with the comma basis of 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655, 91125/91091. The 25-tone scale of moulin is capable of supporting the 8:11:13 triad, as it takes less than 25 notes to map the 11th and 13th harmonics.
The Vidarines
1619edo supports vidar, which has the comma basis 4225/4224, 4375/4374, and 6656/6655. In addition, it contains a wealth of rank-two 13-limit temperaments that are produced by adding one comma on top of the vidar comma basis;. Temperaments described above such as decigrave, keenanose, moulin, are members of this collection. Eliora proposes the name The Vidarines for this collection of temperaments.
A quick summary is shown below.
Temperament | Generator associated ratio |
Completing comma |
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Keenanose (270 & 1619) | 385/384 | 151263/151250 |
Decigrave (45 & 1619) | 66/65 ~ 65/64 | [23 5 13 -23 1 0⟩ |
Moulin (494 & 1619) | 13/11 | 91125/91091 |
46 & 1619 | 3328/3087 | [-18 9 -2 8 -3 -1⟩ |
178 & 1619 | 4429568/4084101 | [-29 10 2 12 -3 -4⟩ |
224 & 1619 | 256/175 | 18753525/18743296 |
764 & 1619 | 12375/8918 | 52734375/52706752 |
901 & 1619 | 104/99 | 34875815625/34843787264 |
While abigail is a member of the vidarines, 1619edo does not support it because abigail is a period-2 temperament, and 1619 is an odd number.
Prime harmonics
Harmonic | 2 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 11 | 13 | 17 | 19 | 23 | 29 | 31 | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Error | Absolute (¢) | +0.000 | -0.040 | -0.149 | -0.080 | +0.134 | -0.009 | +0.295 | -0.293 | +0.262 | -0.053 | +0.116 |
Relative (%) | +0.0 | -5.4 | -20.2 | -10.8 | +18.0 | -1.2 | +39.8 | -39.5 | +35.3 | -7.1 | +15.6 | |
Steps (reduced) |
1619 (0) |
2566 (947) |
3759 (521) |
4545 (1307) |
5601 (744) |
5991 (1134) |
6618 (142) |
6877 (401) |
7324 (848) |
7865 (1389) |
8021 (1545) |
Subsets and supersets
1619edo is the 256th prime edo.
Selected intervals
Step | Cents | Ratio | Name* |
---|---|---|---|
0 | 0.000 | 1/1 | prime, unison |
6 | 4.447 | 385/384 | keenanisma |
72 | 53.366 | 33/32 | al-Farabi quarter-tone |
360 | 266.831 | 7/6 | septimal subminor third, grave minor third |
744 | 551.451 | 11/8 | 11th harmonic, undecimal superfourth |
1134 | 840.519 | 13/8 | 13th harmonic, tridecimal neutral sixth |
1619 | 1200.000 | 2/1 | perfect octave |
* Named in accordance to their most just 13-limit counterpart using the names accepted on the wiki.
Regular temperament properties
Template:Comma basis begin |- | 2.3 | [-2566 1619⟩ | [⟨1619 2566]] | +0.0127 | 0.0127 | 1.71 |- | 2.3.5 | [-69 45 -1⟩, [-82 -1 36⟩ | [⟨1619 2566 3759]] | +0.0299 | 0.0265 | 3.57 |- | 2.3.5.7 | 4375/4374, 52734375/52706752, [-67 14 6 11⟩ | [⟨1619 2566 3759 4545]] | +0.0295 | 0.0229 | 3.09 |- | 2.3.5.7.11 | 4375/4374, 117649/117612, 759375/758912, [24 -6 0 1 -5⟩ | [⟨1619 2566 3759 4545 5601]] | +0.0159 | 0.0341 | 4.60 |- | 2.3.5.7.11.13 | 4225/4224, 4375/4374, 6656/6655, 78125/78078, 117649/117612 | [⟨1619 2566 3759 4545 5601 5991]] | +0.0136 | 0.0315 | 4.26 Template:Comma basis end
Rank-2 temperaments
Template:Rank-2 begin |- | 1 | 6\1619 | 4.447 | 385/384 | Keenanose |- | 1 | 36\1619 | 26.683 | 65/64 | Decigrave |- | 1 | 72\1619 | 53.366 | 33/32 | Ravine |- | 1 | 112\1619 | 83.014 | 1573/1500 | Acrosextilififths |- | 1 | 390\1619 | 289.067 | 13/11 | Moulin |- | 1 | 426\1619 | 315.750 | 6/5 | Oviminor |- | 1 | 587\1619 | 435.083 | 9/7 | Supermajor |- | 1 | 672\1619 | 498.085 | 4/3 | Counterschismic Template:Rank-2 end Template:Orf