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--[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 20:54, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

: I'm afraid I'm not enlightened on the exact difference between play on words and contraction. To me contraction is a specific type of play on words.

: Let's note that the entry of sensi was [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Temperament_names&type=revision&diff=27129&oldid=27130 Gene's own edition] and that should be key evidence for its authenticity, altho the reference I added later only provided partial proof for it. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 00:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

:: A play on words is a pun, or a joke that takes advantage of words with similar sounds or spellings. It is usually somehow amusing, and adds new meaning beyond the meanings of the individual words that were combined. "Sensi", and other mere contractions like it (e.g. "can't", "they're", "semver"), do not meet that definition. A proper example of a play on words would be the name of my friends' company "Cinapse", which combines the words "cinema", "synapse" (and perhaps even the word "apps", too) all together into one word, and this name conveys how their company adds brain-like tooling to movie productions.

:: Thank you for pointing out that Gene added that information himself. Alright, I accept its authenticity as it is. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 01:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

::: Alright. By that definition ''sensi'' is probably just a contraction. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 02:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I removed the bit on the Sensipent page for now. Previously I wrote that I wasn't sure whether "sensi" was a play on words or a contraction. I realized that I definitely know it's not a play on words, because that doesn't make any sense. So it's either a contraction, or something else. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 18:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I found the same statement on the [[Sensamagic clan]] page and removed it there for now, for the same reason. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:18, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

== Proposal to reserve the possibility to write over names based on asteroids, highways/buses, etc. ==

One or two were fine but we have more than a dozen now. These are starting to look like systematic placeholder names. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

: Any name that was just added by one person without ever getting some kind of consensus should be considered a placeholder -[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 17:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

:: I concur with FloraC's proposal, but I'd like to add if a comma/temperament was named by a single person and there is no strong reasons for a rename and at least one other person likes it (unless that person co-named the comma) it really doesn't seem worth the effort to rename it unless it's a particularly important comma/temperament. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 23:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

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 --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 20:54, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
+: I'm afraid I'm not enlightened on the exact difference between play on words and contraction. To me contraction is a specific type of play on words.
+: Let's note that the entry of sensi was [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=Temperament_names&type=revision&diff=27129&oldid=27130 Gene's own edition] and that should be key evidence for its authenticity, altho the reference I added later only provided partial proof for it. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 00:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
+:: A play on words is a pun, or a joke that takes advantage of words with similar sounds or spellings. It is usually somehow amusing, and adds new meaning beyond the meanings of the individual words that were combined. "Sensi", and other mere contractions like it (e.g. "can't", "they're", "semver"), do not meet that definition. A proper example of a play on words would be the name of my friends' company "Cinapse", which combines the words "cinema", "synapse" (and perhaps even the word "apps", too) all together into one word, and this name conveys how their company adds brain-like tooling to movie productions.
+:: Thank you for pointing out that Gene added that information himself. Alright, I accept its authenticity as it is. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 01:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
+::: Alright. By that definition ''sensi'' is probably just a contraction. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 02:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 I removed the bit on the Sensipent page for now. Previously I wrote that I wasn't sure whether "sensi" was a play on words or a contraction. I realized that I definitely know it's not a play on words, because that doesn't make any sense. So it's either a contraction, or something else. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 18:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 I found the same statement on the [[Sensamagic clan]] page and removed it there for now, for the same reason. --[[User:Cmloegcmluin|Cmloegcmluin]] ([[User talk:Cmloegcmluin|talk]]) 22:18, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
+== Proposal to reserve the possibility to write over names based on asteroids, highways/buses, etc. ==
+One or two were fine but we have more than a dozen now. These are starting to look like systematic placeholder names. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
+: Any name that was just added by one person without ever getting some kind of consensus should be considered a placeholder -[[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]]) 17:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
+:: I concur with FloraC's proposal, but I'd like to add if a comma/temperament was named by a single person and there is no strong reasons for a rename and at least one other person likes it (unless that person co-named the comma) it really doesn't seem worth the effort to rename it unless it's a particularly important comma/temperament. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 23:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)