Talk:Trivial temperament

OM

Is OM an acronym, and if so, what does it stand for? --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 18:07, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

No, It's a reference to Hindu meditation practices, where said syllables are supposed to encompass the entire universe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om --Yourmusic Productions (talk) 18:39, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for explaining, Yourmusic. Well, I was asking because I thought that whatever the answer was should be explained in the article itself. But if it's some Hindu meditation practice reference — not a simple acronym for a math or music term — then I don't understand enough to explain the connection and/or motivation myself, so I must ask someone else to take care of explaining it, then. Perhaps you're up to the task, Yourmusic?

What I can tell at a glance from this Wikipedia article is that this Hindu sense of "Om" is typically capitalized, but not in all caps. So if this xenharmonic object's name is meant as a reference to this Hindu sense of Om, then it should match its capitalization, unless there's some other consideration. If there is, then that consideration should also be surfaced, as well as explained in the article itself. --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, a lot of temperament and comma names are in-jokes made by the original creator without explaining and it can be very hard to find out when and why they were called that, and if it has any deeper significance or a backronym attached. I've been irritated trying to track down info like that in the past as well. Looking at the revisions list, Keenan Pepper would be the person to ask in this case, as it's present right from the first version of the article and he created it. --Yourmusic Productions (talk) 21:38, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Exactly, the "syllable encompassing the entire universe" thing is spot on. I just called it Om temperament because there's only one temperament-distinct pitch in the whole system, kind of like "Om" is the only word you need to create the whole universe. —Keenan Pepper (talk) 22:09, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Yourmusic: Thanks for the advice. As you can see, I've alerted Keenan to this discussion.

Keenan: Thanks for explaining. Okay, word, well, I can get down with nondualism. It's sort of sad that it ended up on a page with "trivial" in the name, but I suppose that's part of it, huh, accepting the triviality of it all. Or maybe now I'm just conflating things with existentialism... :-P

Anyone: So, I think that's enough information to explain things on the page. But my question about the capitalization still stands. Shouldn't it be "Om" everywhere, not "OM"? --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 23:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Also, otherwise, "OM" looks like two variables, O and M being multiplied together perhaps. I don't think two-letter all-caps variables are common, for that reason. --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 20:10, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix, Keenan! There's actually one other page on the wiki where it's still "OM" though: the Meet and join page, which I no longer have sufficient privileges to edit. You might, though, if you have a minute to fix it there, too. --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 06:42, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

I see the "OM" is still there on the Meet and join page. Can anyone update please? --Cmloegcmluin (talk) 05:37, 23 November 2022 (UTC)