Talk:41edo solfege
Possible expansions
The conventional solfege runs Do - Di/Ra - Re - Ri/Me - Mi - Fa - Fi/Se - Sol - Si/Le - La - Li/Te - Ti - Do. The many enharmonic equivalents provide flexibility in naming. My (Kite's) 41edo solfege has only 4 equivalents, resulting in awkward names like a VIv chord being La - Fra - Ma. There could be 4 new syllables for the aug unisons:
name | Do | Da | Du | Di or Dri | Dro | Dra | Dru |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
interval | v1 | P1 | ^1 | ^^1 | vA1 | A1 | ^A1 |
equivalent | Fro | Fra | Fru | Ri |
Mnemonic: the Dr- names have an "r" like the equivalent 2nds do. The VIv chord would be named La - Dro - Ma. If followed by a II chord, the melody Fra-Ra would become Dro-Ra, much better.
However this is not enough to avoid awkward names. For example, the 3rd of the vIIIv chord is a vv#5 note named as a 6th, Flo. To get as much coverage as the conventional solfege, we would need 3 more aug intervals. We could use -k- for augmented:
- aug 5ths: Ski Sko Ska Sku
- aug 2nds: Kri Kro Kra Kru
- aug 6ths: Kli Klo Kla Klu
The vIIIv chord would be named Mo Ski Lo. The 17 -a notes would run from dim 5th to aug 6th:
Sha - Fra - Fla - Na - Tha - Fa - Da - Sa - Ra - La - Ma - Ta - Pa - Dra - Ska - Kra - Kla
Almost every major chord could be spelled appropriately, as long as the root is one of the original 45 names. But bIIv7 lacks a vd8 name. To get all the chords, we would need 4 more dim intervals:
- dim 8ves: Dwo Dwa Dwu Dwi
- dim 4ths: Fwo Fwa Fwu Fwi
- dim 7ths: Thwo Thwa Thwu Thwi
- dim 3rds: Nwo Nwa Nwu Nwi
1sns | 2nds | 3rds | 4ths | 5ths | 6ths | 7ths | 8ves | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
0 | Da | |||||||
1 | Du | |||||||
2 | Dri | Fro | ||||||
3 | Dro | Fra | ||||||
4 | Dra | Fru | ||||||
5 | Dru | Ri | (Nwo) | |||||
6 | Ro | (Nwa) | ||||||
7 | Ra | (Nwu) | ||||||
8 | Ru | (Nwi) | ||||||
9 | Kri | No | ||||||
10 | Kro | Na | ||||||
11 | Kra | Nu | ||||||
12 | Kru | Mi | (Fwo) | |||||
13 | Mo | (Fwa) | ||||||
14 | Ma | (Fwu) | ||||||
15 | Mu | (Fwi) | ||||||
16 | Fo | |||||||
17 | Fa | |||||||
18 | Fu | |||||||
19 | Fi | Sho | ||||||
20 | Po | Sha | ||||||
21 | Pa | Shu | ||||||
22 | Pu | Si | ||||||
23 | So | |||||||
24 | Sa | |||||||
25 | Su | |||||||
26 | Ski | Flo | ||||||
27 | Sko | Fla | ||||||
28 | Ska | Flu | ||||||
29 | Sku | Li | (Thwo) | |||||
30 | Lo | (Thwa) | ||||||
31 | La | (Thwu) | ||||||
32 | Lu | (Thwi) | ||||||
33 | Kli | Tho | ||||||
34 | Klo | Tha | ||||||
35 | Kla | Thu | ||||||
36 | Klu | Ti | (Dwo) | |||||
37 | To | (Dwa) | ||||||
38 | Ta | (Dwu) | ||||||
39 | Tu | (Dwi) | ||||||
40 | Do | |||||||
41 | Da |
We could do this, but should we? With 61 or 77 names, the solfege is harder to learn. With names like Nwo and Thwu, it's less singable. Such a complex solfege is more of a barrier than an aid. IMO such expansions shouldn't happen unless absolutely needed, say if perhaps 41edo becomes an extremely popular tuning rivaling 12edo. TallKite (talk) 01:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC)